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Old 11-18-2012, 11:34 AM    (permalink
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haahaha bynum reinjured his knee bowling? Oh god poor Philly.
Its actually the other knee now too. I don't know why my image wont display.
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[quote=BuckeyeDan17;3184652]Usually he drops at least a few dimes. Waiters has gone cold from the field and nobody else on this team can shoot to save his life. Times iz tuff

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There are still people who will ignore his injuries and believe he's got a future as one of the top Centers in the league.
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Give me DeAndre Jordan...

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Well I don't think there has been a 20 year old player in the history of the NBA that didn't need work. He's a hell of a lot farther along than most of them though.
Eh. He's not great at running at offense yet, so he's not at Chris Paul levels of awesome and he never will be.
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No one has said he's as good as Chris Paul. But you keep ignoring the lack of offensive talent on that roster. Because there is literally almost none.
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The point of an elite PG is to make the people around you better. Kidd did it. Nash did it. Paul did it. Even Gary Payton did it. Kyrie is struggling to do it.
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so in his 2nd year, Kyrie is struggling to do what some of the best PG's in the game have done? Color me shocked
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0 assists in a game is unacceptable for a guy who is supposed to be emerging as one of the top point guards in the league, that's my point.
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The point of an elite PG is to make the people around you better. Kidd did it. Nash did it. Paul did it. Even Gary Payton did it. Kyrie is struggling to do it.
Who did Nash make better? Marion put up numbers without Nash, Amare put up numbers without Nash, Rich had better seasons without Nash. Same goes with Kidd. You act as if the talent on the rosters are equal. They made other players chances to score easier, not making them better.
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Who did Nash make better? Marion put up numbers without Nash, Amare put up numbers without Nash, Rich had better seasons without Nash. Same goes with Kidd. You act as if the talent on the rosters are equal. They made other players chances to score easier, not making them better.
Most of those guys on the Suns had career years on those teams.
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Most of those guys on the Suns had career years on those teams.
Other than Gortat, I cannot think of anyone who's numbers jumped as soon as they played with Nash. He also started getting an increase in playing time, I believe when he joined the Suns

He's a great passer, but he did play with talented teammates.
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We rip on Bropez's contract here a lot but Roy Hibbert has quietly been 1000x worse than him after getting his max contract. Indiana is so bad offensively righ now, bad enough that it's not just because Granger is out.
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Other than Gortat, I cannot think of anyone who's numbers jumped as soon as they played with Nash. He also started getting an increase in playing time, I believe when he joined the Suns

He's a great passer, but he did play with talented teammates.
Ummm Marions numbers in PHX were the best of his career and thats the same as Joe Johnson. JJ was scary with Nash.
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Ummm Marions numbers in PHX were the best of his career and thats the same as Joe Johnson. JJ was scary with Nash.
Marion was averaging 20 before Nash went back to phx. His fg% took a slight increase, that's all that changed on the offensive standpoint.

Johson played one season with Nash. He dominated taking three pointers with him, but he still was very good without Nash
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Anderson Varejao? I mean what is he working with in Cleveland? That team is so young, with like 4 players who would get 15 minutes anywhere else. Tristan Thompson is getting 30 MPG. Case closed?
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That was actually the line for the Raptors/Magic game which I did actually bet, finished at 183. Had Sixers/Cavs on my mind for whatever reason, that line is 190.
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Blatche has 22 points after the 3rd quarter...
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Bulls and Blazers under 191 1/2 I feel is a good bet, or is that too good to be true?
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marion, ariza, or vc; who's the best fantasy player?
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Bulls and Blazers under 191 1/2 I feel is a good bet, or is that too good to be true?
I have to wonder if Chicago has the legs to play D on a b2b after last night.
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I think we are going to finish with a record worse than Charlotte's. Our starting five isn't awful but our bench is the worst ever assembled. Jeremy Pargo and CJ Miles. LOL.

hello Noel/Shabazz!
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