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Old 11-04-2012, 11:13 AM    (permalink
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Let's try this un otro vez!



Alabama (13-0) vs. Oregon (13-0)

-Alabama is great, blah blah blah....

-Well, nobody has lost yet, but now the question is who will be #2 if everyone remainds undefeated. Notre Dame appears to be mathematically out of this equation, so now it's a squeaker between Oregon and Kansas State.

Important games (Alabama): Texas A&M, SEC Championship Game
Important games (Oregon): Stanford, @Oregon State, Pac12 Game






Florida (11-1) vs. Oklahoma (10-2)

-Well, the loss to Georgia ruined Florida's shot at a national or SEC championship, but it did very little to keep them out of the BCS. If they win against Florida State, they're in at 11-1.

-If Oklahoma can finish out the season with 2 losses, they are a lock for the BCS. If they lose, **** gets really, really complicated.





Florida State (11-2) vs. Louisville (11-1)

-The ACC sucks so bad this year, but Florida State is still clearly the best in the bunch. I think they lose to Florida but otherwise run the table, having already blown their annual game. But, this is Florida State, so they'll probably blow it again.

-I predict that Cincy beats Rutgers, and Rutgers beats Louisville, thus leaving the Big East as a three-way tie. Louisville will likely still be ranked the highest in this scenario and get the nod.




Kansas State (12-0) vs. Notre Dame (12-0)
-The BCS should really hope that both Notre Dame and Kansas State lose. It could happen, but I don't think it's better than 50% to happen.

-This would be about as close to a semi-final game as you can get in the BCS.





Nebraska (10-3) vs. Oregon State (10-2)

-Nebraska won their pivotal game against Michigan. They could still slip up, but they're in the driver's seat now.

-With Boise State losing (and Nebraska winning) this gets really complicated. There are no other realistic non-AQ teams left (La. Tech is about as close as it gets), which means that the last BCS team is likely either going to be Clemson, or a second team from the Pac12 (Oregon State or Stanford). This makes next week's game between Oregon State and Stanford especially important as a likely elimination game.

-I'll predict Clemson to lose to South Carolina, and Oregon State to win one of their games against Stanford/Oregon, leaving them at 10-2 and in the Rose Bowl.
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In a way it was probably good that Bama won that game last night because that would have really created a cluster####.

As much as we argue this stuff (in good fun i hope) it'll all play itself out. Oregon still has tough games with Stanford and OSU then the Pac-12 title game, your lineup seems like it could be pretty accurate.
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The limit of two teams per conference in the BCS really screws things this year. I think Georgia/Florida/LSU/Texas A&M(obviously one of those will play) are more deserving than certain teams that will get the spot.

Saying that, if the top four continue to win out, hopefully they do indeed match up the two that don't make it.
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The limit of two teams per conference in the BCS really screws things this year. I think Georgia/Florida/LSU/Texas A&M(obviously one of those will play) are more deserving than certain teams that will get the spot.

Saying that, if the top four continue to win out, hopefully they do indeed match up the two that don't make it.
A & M will most likely lose this week and for my money Florida is not a very good football team right now but outside of a playoff it's never going to be the best system in the world.
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The limit of two teams per conference in the BCS really screws things this year. I think Georgia/Florida/LSU/Texas A&M(obviously one of those will play) are more deserving than certain teams that will get the spot.

Saying that, if the top four continue to win out, hopefully they do indeed match up the two that don't make it.
I disagree. The rest of the nation doesn't want to see the all-SEC show. Having teams from the other conferences compete against each other is the only thing that makes the bowl season watchable (hence the really low ratings for the Alabama-LSU game last year)
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I disagree. The rest of the nation doesn't want to see the all-SEC show. Having teams from the other conferences compete against each other is the only thing that makes the bowl season watchable (hence the really low ratings for the Alabama-LSU game last year)
I'm not saying all of those teams should play, but I feel as if the SEC were to field a third team to take one of those non-AQ spots, they'd be better than the alternative. It would still be a matchup that employed different conferences.
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I just can't see Oregon slipping up. However, it'd be tough to see them get in over Kansas State. They've been very impressive against better opponents.

Notre Dame does not belong in the top 5 with the schedule they've played. They struggled with Oklahoma when Kansas State dominated them right from the start. Notre Dame got style points but it was 20-13 up until5 min left in the game. Plus, 3 OTs with Pitt at home????? They don't belong in the conversation of a National title despite there record.

Heck, they've barely beaten Purdue, BYU, and Miami. they don't belong/.
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Notre Dame has played a much tougher schedule than Oregon. I'm getting tired of making this really ******* obvious point.
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I'm not saying all of those teams should play, but I feel as if the SEC were to field a third team to take one of those non-AQ spots, they'd be better than the alternative. It would still be a matchup that employed different conferences.
*shrug*

I really don't see the difference between a 10-2 Oregon State team vs. a 10-2 South Carolina or LSU team.

It'd be one thing if a 1-loss team was being left out of the picture, but that's not going to happen.
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Notre Dame has played a much tougher schedule than Oregon. I'm getting tired of making this really ******* obvious point.
I'd be all for burying that subject till the Ducks play Stanford and Oregon st.
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I just can't see Oregon slipping up. However, it'd be tough to see them get in over Kansas State. They've been very impressive against better opponents.

Notre Dame does not belong in the top 5 with the schedule they've played. They struggled with Oklahoma when Kansas State dominated them right from the start. Notre Dame got style points but it was 20-13 up until5 min left in the game. Plus, 3 OTs with Pitt at home????? They don't belong in the conversation of a National title despite there record.

Heck, they've barely beaten Purdue, BYU, and Miami. they don't belong/.
This is not true. Oklahoma had the lead against K-State going in to the 4th. Notre Dame dominated us more so than K-State. Oklahoma only lead in the first quarter against ND. Then after tying it, ND said hells no, and made the loss look a lot worse.

If it wasn't for Landry Jones' stupid ******* fumble at the 1, it probably would have been a 6-3 game in OU's favor going to the half rather than 10-6 (which was the score going in to half time for both games) in K-State's favor.
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I just can't see Oregon slipping up. However, it'd be tough to see them get in over Kansas State. They've been very impressive against better opponents.

Notre Dame does not belong in the top 5 with the schedule they've played. They struggled with Oklahoma when Kansas State dominated them right from the start. Notre Dame got style points but it was 20-13 up until5 min left in the game. Plus, 3 OTs with Pitt at home????? They don't belong in the conversation of a National title despite there record.

Heck, they've barely beaten Purdue, BYU, and Miami. they don't belong/.
Is 41-3 barely now?

Notre Dame's schedule has been better than K-State and Oregon. You can say style points favors the others, that's fine. Just don't make the incorrect argument about schedule. There is a reason they are ranked 1, 2 or 3 in all the computer polls.

Also, Notre Dame dominated the Pitt game in almost every category. Pitt had big plays that put them on the advantage. It was a trap game that Notre Dame was lucky to come out the victor.

Someone already commented about K-State and Notre Dame playing Oklahoma. Oklahoma was off to a good start but after the bad snap by the center they never really got anything going offensively.
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Oh god, I had the memory of Bell's fumbled snap blocked away. Thanks :(

But really, that is just another instance of where K-State got lucky.

Not trying to discredit K-State, they played a good game. I was more impressed by ND's win over us though.
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Oh god, I had the memory of Bell's fumbled snap blocked away. Thanks :(

But really, that is just another instance of where K-State got lucky.

Not trying to discredit K-State, they played a good game. I was more impressed by ND's win over us though.
You expect underclassmen to make mistakes. That isn't luck. It's not like he has a history of never fumbling.
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You expect underclassmen to make mistakes. That isn't luck. It's not like he has a history of never fumbling.
You don't go in expecting to rely on those mistakes though, especially quarterbacks fumbling the snap. It was a fumbled snap within the 5 yard line in which K-State had nothing to do with other than the recovery, which you got to hand them that. That kind of turnover to prevent points is pretty lucky.
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My only question is if Oregon gets to the NC and Notre Dame does not, would the Rose Bowl consider taking Notre Dame over a Pac-12 team. I know it is rare for the Rose Bowl to shy away from the Big-10/Pac match-up, but with the moneymaker of Notre Dame, I imagine they could tip that way (assuming the Sugar Bowl doesn't first!)
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My only question is if Oregon gets to the NC and Notre Dame does not, would the Rose Bowl consider taking Notre Dame over a Pac-12 team. I know it is rare for the Rose Bowl to shy away from the Big-10/Pac match-up, but with the moneymaker of Notre Dame, I imagine they could tip that way (assuming the Sugar Bowl doesn't first!)
Yeah I had that originally and changed it. There is a good deal of collusion among the BCS games, so I wonder if the Rose and Fiesta bowls wouldn't work something out to ensure the undefeated matchup.

I would assume the Sugar Bowl would take an SEC team, since it's high heresy in the South to take anything from the North above an SEC team. By gawd.
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My only question is if Oregon gets to the NC and Notre Dame does not, would the Rose Bowl consider taking Notre Dame over a Pac-12 team. I know it is rare for the Rose Bowl to shy away from the Big-10/Pac match-up, but with the moneymaker of Notre Dame, I imagine they could tip that way (assuming the Sugar Bowl doesn't first!)
It's likely no other Pac 12 team would even be eligible for the BCS at that point.
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Not really. As I show above, Oregon State could beat Stanford and lose to Oregon, finish 10-2, and easily be eligible for a BCS game.
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Not really. As I show above, Oregon State could beat Stanford and lose to Oregon, finish 10-2, and easily be eligible for a BCS game.
Yup. I don't think the collusion reaches to letting the two undefeateds play though. No way do I believe the Rose Bowl takes money out of their pockets and passes on Notre Dame just to let those two play. I can see them wanting to keep the Pac/Big match-up as a reason to though.
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Lots of changes!



Alabama (12-1) vs. Notre Dame (12-0)

-Pretty simple. Winner of Alabama-Georgia.

-Notre Dame wins and they are in. Notre Dame loses, and all hell breaks loose. Florida would probably get the nod if they beat FSU (though the computers hate FSU, so I'm not sure it would go both ways). Oregon, K-State, and even Notre Dame would still have a chance.




LSU (10-2) vs. Oklahoma (10-2)

-At the moment, I'm predicting a Florida State victory over Florida. If that happens, the Sugar Bowl will have their pick of 2-loss teams, and it comes down to picking the local team in LSU, or the potential appeal of Manziel and A&M.

-Oklahoma had a scare against West Virginia, which gives me pause against an improved Oklahoma State team.





Nebraska (10-3) vs. Stanford (11-2)

-Either Nebraska or Wisconsin, and I wouldn't sleep on Wisconsin.


-Impressive stuff by Stanford beating Oregon State and Oregon in consecutive weeks. They now oddly have to beat UCLA twice, but if they do, they're going to the Rose Bowl.



Kansas State (11-1) vs. Oregon (11-1)
-What happened to K-State was unfortunate, but losing one game doesn't make them a bad team. They'll still win the Big 12 and make the Fiesta Bowl.

-Unless UCLA beats Stanford, Oregon now won't even win the Pac 12. But they will make a BCS bowl game, and head to this former title game matchup.



Florida State (12-1) vs. Rutgers (11-1)

-The ACC sucks so bad this year, but Florida State is still clearly the best in the bunch. Can they not blow it? I don't know.

-Rutgers beat Cincy, and they'll beat Louisville too.
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And now for the rest:

GoDaddy: Ohio vs. Louisiana-Monroe
BBVA: Toledo vs. Troy
Cotton: Texas vs. Texas A&M
Heart of Dallas: Purdue vs. TCU
Outback: Wisconsin vs. South Carolina
Capital One: Michigan vs. Georgia
Gator: Northwestern vs. Mississippi State
Sun: Miami vs. UCLA
Music City: Vanderbilt vs. Virginia Tech
Liberty: Tulsa vs. Ole Miss
Chick Fil-A: Clemson vs. Florida
Pinstripe: West Virginia vs. Syracuse
Fight Hunger: USC vs. Navy
BW3's: Texas Tech vs. Michigan State
Armed Forces: Air Force vs. East Carolina
Alamo: Oklahoma State vs. Oregon State
Russell Athletic: Louisville vs. Georgia Tech
Meineke: Minnesota vs. Baylor
Holiday: Iowa State vs. Washington
Independence: La Tech vs. Duke
Military: Ball State vs. La-Lafayette
Belk: Cincinnati vs. NC State
Little Caesars: N. Illinois vs. W. Kentucky
Hawaii: Fresno State vs. San Jose State
Las Vegas: Boise State vs. Arizona
New Orleans: Arkansas State vs. Kent State
Beef O'Brady: Middle Tennessee vs. UCF
Poinsettia: San Diego State vs. BYU
New Mexico: Nevada vs. Arizona State
Idaho Potato: Bowling Green vs. Utah State
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Can anyone explain to me why Georgia is ranked higher than Oregon?

Oregon lost in overtime to Stanford while Georgia got absolutely beat the f*** down by South Carolina.
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Well the trend I've noticed through the years is after a team loses the next ones beneath them move up. Is Oregon better then Georgia? Maybe. If you ask me Oregon has been madly overrated all year and they finally met their match.
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Florida is pretty much assured a spot in the BCSNC with a win over FSU and a Notre Dame loss... unbelievable
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