Bjoern Werner, DE, FSU - Page 3

duesouth · 11-26-2012, 02:18 AM

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Eh, I think Carradine's pad level is the worst part of his game. Good hand strike and strength and he can jolt, but once the OT resets Tank can't do anything because he is upright and can't roll his hips.

Off the snap he does get a bit too high, but can sink his hips and get under people if he gets locked up. Watching the Fla/FSU game tonight, will try and note a few specific instances before he got hurt.

MassNole · 11-26-2012, 02:35 PM

Werner is tied with Clowney for the national lead in Sacks with an extra game over Clowney to add to his total.

Babylon · 11-26-2012, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MassNole

Werner is tied with Clowney for the national lead in Sacks with an extra game over Clowney to add to his total.

Which to me means nothing seeing as he got a ton of them against cupcakes at the beginning of the season. Having said that, this guy just keeps getting better and better. Not sure where he ends up but he might be the first DE off the board if you consider Jarvis Jones a LB.

MassNole · 11-26-2012, 02:46 PM

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Which to me means nothing seeing as he got a ton of them against cupcakes at the beginning of the season. Having said that, this guy just keeps getting better and better. Not sure where he ends up but he might be the first DE off the board if you consider Jarvis Jones a LB.

He had the same number of sacks vs. UF as he did Murray State FWIW.

y.f.s. · 11-26-2012, 02:51 PM

Are we even sure that sack numbers in college necessarily correlate to pass rushing success in the pros?

Considering that a sack in and of itself can be the result of many other variables (coverage, teammate pressure, the QB holding the ball too long or sacking himself), I'm not sure that the number itself even means anything.

Werner consistently gets by his man, and he's got unreal explosiveness and flexibility, and it shows up week in and week out. That translates more to me than looking at who his sacks came against.

Babylon · 11-26-2012, 02:51 PM

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He had the same number of sacks vs. UF as he did Murray State FWIW.

Murray st. obviously had as good an O-line as Florida. Seriously.

Bottom line i'm not a numbers guy. Give me someone that improves and has some fire in his gut and that is what Werner is. I'll take him in New England or Seattle if he's available.

duesouth · 11-26-2012, 02:53 PM

Best I've seen Werner play this year. Final sack was just fantastic - great stutter step move and then explosion. Good hand use on his first.

Did give up the edge a couple of times - 6:12 remaining 1st quarter - pulling G and FB between them dealt with him; 5:59 remaining in the second quarter, just overpowered and had his back to his blocker - not great.

But on this performance nit picking.

MassNole · 11-26-2012, 04:53 PM

He also played 4-5 games with a cast on his hand, not coincidentally when his numbers dipped.