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Old 12-02-2012, 11:20 PM    (permalink
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Default Who is the current DROTY?

Couldn't find a thread for this, and it seems like there ought to be one.

Homer pick: Bobby Wagner.
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Lavonte David.

The voting should be close though.
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It would have been Chandler Jones (because he plays in NE and because he's beasting) but he's missed two games and Dont'a Hightower hasn't played that good. (very good, but his tackle numbers aren't great).

If I were to guess, I would guess whatever rookie leads in tackles (probably a LB)
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Janoris Jenkins. 3 Touchdowns. No other rookie defender has made as many impact plays. He was also tied for 6th in the league in pass deflections (with 4 other players) before today (stats haven't updated for everyone else). I can't justify giving it to a linebacker who makes a bunch of tackles unless they pepper in some other impact plays. Bobby Wagner is the only guy who might fit that description, Kuechly and David don't 12 games into the season and their team's defenses aren't that great. I won't buy the argument that David contributes to the best run defense in the league when the Bucs are the worst team in the league against the pass. Its like the opposite of when the Raiders or Bills had a great pass defense because every team could just run for 200 yards against them.
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I won't buy the argument that David contributes to the best run defense in the league when the Bucs are the worst team in the league against the pass. Its like the opposite of when the Raiders or Bills had a great pass defense because every team could just run for 200 yards against them.
That argument would be valid if the Bucs didn't lead the league for TFLs and for average given yards per runs.
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That argument would be valid if the Bucs didn't lead the league for TFLs and for average given yards per runs.

.... and if Lavonte David wasn't 3rd in the league in TFL's.
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ILB Jerrell Freeman could make a case. He has been in the CFL and the Colts signed him this year so he could be considered a rookie. He already has over 100 tackles and a couple of sacks and an int for a TD.
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Luke Kuechly is like third in the NFL in tackles or something. Maybe him.
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No defensive rookie has really stood out this year. Casey Hayward probably has the best shot IMO
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No defensive rookie has really stood out this year. Casey Hayward probably has the best shot IMO
I agree. I think there were probably 3-4 guys last year who would have made it over anyone in this class. There really were no exceptional defensive prospects in this draft besides Kuechly and Claiborne.
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That argument would be valid if the Bucs didn't lead the league for TFLs and for average given yards per runs.
Hes also a contributing factor to the worst pass defense in the league. No one wins awards for stopping the run.
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I will admit the Chandler Jones injury really mad this a relatively ho hum race.

If he comes back in due time and picks up four more sacks and maybe another FF, I see him winning.
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It's hard for a run stuffing DT to make the headlines, but Brockers is one hell of a player. He recently dominated the 49ers interior o-line
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You obviously haven't been watching Luke Kuechly then.

Comfortably ahead of the rest.
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You obviously haven't been watching Luke Kuechly then.

Comfortably ahead of the rest.

Hasn't been watching Jenoris Jenkins or Brockers either. They have stood out big time. They are both future pro bowlers
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Hasn't been watching Jenoris Jenkins or Brockers either. They have stood out big time. They are both future pro bowlers
I saw Jenkins live in London, he was abused.
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Jenoris Jenkins should be taking the cake and walking it in for 6.
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You obviously haven't been watching Luke Kuechly then.

Comfortably ahead of the rest.
[quote=Miaoww;3201346]I saw Jenkins live in London, he was abused.[/QUOTE



I saw Drew Brees throw 5 INT's. Jenoris has been great most of the season. His only down fall is, he likes to gamble. It costs him on occasion. He's a rook, he will learn. But man, the dude is an athletic freak.
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I'm rooting for Kuechly so I may be biased.

1) Luke Kuechly
2) Bobby Wagner
3) Janoris Jenkins
4) Casey Hayward
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id be torn between kuechly (who wasnt on the line for this, taking the field would have been an awesome bet) and jenkins (who i dont think was on that either)

originally i picked kuechly though
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It's between Lavonte and Janoris for me. Surprise surprise I had them both ranked as top 10 players in this last draft (Janoris I actually had as the 3rd overall prospect.)
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If C. Jones comes back in time to play against Houston and SF and he plays well then I can see him winning it. If not...
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It's between Lavonte and Janoris for me. Surprise surprise I had them both ranked as top 10 players in this last draft (Janoris I actually had as the 3rd overall prospect.)
Janoris' season has been so up and down. He's had some great plays (TOs etc) but there have been a lot of times he has been beaten like a mule. Brandon Lloyd took him to school in London. I suppose it is a very rookie-esque season, however a lot of his good plays have kinda been right place, right time deals, whereas his bad moments have been baddddddd
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Janoris' season has been so up and down. He's had some great plays (TOs etc) but there have been a lot of times he has been beaten like a mule. Brandon Lloyd took him to school in London. I suppose it is a very rookie-esque season, however a lot of his good plays have kinda been right place, right time deals, whereas his bad moments have been baddddddd
Very true, and he did go through a stretch during the middle of the season where he had totally lacked confidence.

The thing with a corner is that when they have bad moments, it's exposed in isolation, and the results are huge plays. It's harder to tell when a linebacker mis-fits vs the run or blitzes the wrong gap (and the results usually arent as devastating).
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Tannehill was a better QB (than Gabbert) when he was still playing WR
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