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Old 12-03-2012, 07:15 PM    (permalink) 
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Two going is a joke. Lee got snubbed
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Welp guess the finalists are down to Manziel, Klein and Te'o. Manziel has this all but locked up I guess.

I wish Lee would've at least gotten an invite though.

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Yeah, Lee not getting to at least go is dumb.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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I still think Stephon Tuitt is the best player on that Notre Dame defense, and they almost certainly lose to Stanford without him and probably to Michigan too (although Te'o was the best player in that game). Te'o has had an excellent season, but not an all-time great season.
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It really pisses me off that college football analysts are trying to convince themselves that Teo is a worthy Heisman finalist.

If the biggest argument in his favor has little to do with his performance ON THE FIELD, that player is not worthy of winning the award.

Notre Dame is undefeated because of HC Chip Kelly, not playing in the SEC and the maturation of all those 4 and 5 star recruits. It's not because Teo was so scary good.

He revitalized the program?? His leadership inspired his teammates??
GTFOH.

If a Mike wins the Heisman, he better be Kuechly/Patrick Willis x10.
THat ain't Teo.

If Manziel doesn't win the Heisman, it's going to tarnish the award more than it already is for years to come.
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I like Teo as a person, but seriously man. He is a great player, but not some once in a generation linebacker who single-handedly willed ND to every win. They could use his story as material for a movie maybe someday, but he frankly doesn't deserve the Heisman.
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It really pisses me off that college football analysts are trying to convince themselves that Teo is a worthy Heisman finalist.

If the biggest argument in his favor has little to do with his performance ON THE FIELD, that player is not worthy of winning the award.

Notre Dame is undefeated because of HC Chip Kelly, not playing in the SEC and the maturation of all those 4 and 5 star recruits. It's not because Teo was so scary good.

He revitalized the program?? His leadership inspired his teammates??
GTFOH.

If a Mike wins the Heisman, he better be Kuechly/Patrick Willis x10.
THat ain't Teo.

If Manziel doesn't win the Heisman, it's going to tarnish the award more than it already is for years to come.
what pisses me off is that people keep feeling the need to rip Teos season by looking at very specific things yet they are totally okay with Manziel winning it whilst he was a huge part of aTm losing both games they lost.

Again, im not saying Teo should win, he isnt the best player in the country but with what the heisman has become, hype, stepping up in the big games, team records and highlight plays teo has as good of a claim as anyone (given the flawed parameters) as anyone.

If it really was about the best player it'd be between Lee, Warmack, Elam, Clowney and probably Franklin but that just isnt how the heisman has worked in ages.
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Teo has no claim.

A Mike simply does not impact the game on a per play basis to be considered the most outstanding player in college football.
The Heisman is a stat award, sprinkled with highlight plays.
That's why defensive players are rarely considered Heisman candidates.

If the argument is Teo IS a Heisman candidate because ND is undefeated, he's being given way too much credit for the play of his Dline and the Irish's play on the offensive side of the football.

It's not about Teo not being the best defender in the country, he just didn't compile a Heisman worthy season.

The only reason this race is even close is because Manziel is a RS freshman.

If he were a junior with his stats he'd be the runaway winner.
The only reason Teo allegedly is in striking distance is because many voters IMO still believe a first year player shouldn't win the Heisman.

Alabama is about to beat ND by three TDs in the NC game.
Manziel gave the Tide their only loss.
End of discussion.
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I still like Geno Smith's odds here. *shrug*
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