The Conference Expansion Thread

[MassNole]

Originally Posted by JoeJoeBrown

I think the ACC as a football conference just got squashed.

The Big12 somehow survived after looking all but dead a few years ago.

FSU + Clemson to the Big12 is my guess.

Miami + VT to SEC.

GT + UNC to B1G.

Dunno where that puts the Pac12. They may just stay at 12 for the duration. Dunno what teams would makes sense anywhere west of the mississippi for them to add.

Here are the current rumors, obviously just rumors. Florida has always been the sticking point to FSU to the SEC, however now Alabama and a few others like the idea of FSU to the SEC and with the addition of Texas A&M and Missouri the votes Florida used to have to block FSU are gone and it is likely USC and UGA would take FSU to prevent their rivals from coming in.

So we could be looking at?:

FSU and VT to the SEC
Clemson, Miami, N.C. State, and Louisville to the B12
GT and UNC to the B1G

[JoeJoeBrown]

Originally Posted by MassNole

Here are the current rumors, obviously just rumors. Florida has always been the sticking point to FSU to the SEC, however now Alabama and a few others like the idea of FSU to the SEC and with the addition of Texas A&M and Missouri the votes Florida used to have to block FSU are gone and it is likely USC and UGA would take FSU to prevent their rivals from coming in.

So we could be looking at?:

FSU and VT to the SEC
Clemson, Miami, N.C. State, and Louisville to the B12
GT and UNC to the B1G

That makes sense to me as well. I'm sure things are very fluid wrt negotiations so no one knows for sure.

[draftguru151]

Georiga Tech and UVA will announce decision to leave ACC by Monday. Will join Big 10.

[brat316]

Originally Posted by draftguru151

Georiga Tech and UVA will announce decision to leave ACC by Monday. Will join Big 10.

no link?????

[draftguru151]

From twitta.

[brat316]

Originally Posted by draftguru151

From twitta.

you are a mod, you should know better. link it.

[CashmoneyDrew]

Virginia Tech seems like an absolute lock to the SEC now. It'll be interesting to see if the SEC ends up taking NC State over Florida State.

[derza222]

Those two schools would make sense to me. Will be interesting to see where UNC lands if the Big 12 and/or SEC continue to raid the ACC. Also at this point assuming no more defections I presume the ACC adds UConn and Cincinnati (unless Cincy has an opportunity to move to the Big 12). Wonder what Notre Dame does from here too, maybe the Big 12.

[jrdrylie]

Originally Posted by draftguru151

Georiga Tech and UVA will announce decision to leave ACC by Monday. Will join Big 10.

Tech is denying that but the Yellow Jackets are a much better acquisition than Maryland and Rutgers. Sure, the Atlanta market isn't as good as New York or Baltimore but it gives them a foothold in the South which they don't have anything close to. Plus, their academics and overall athletic department is better.

[draftguru151]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

you are a mod, you should know better. link it.

www.twitter.com

[Smooth Criminal]

16 seems like a number the Big Ten will stay at for a good while. Can't say Im thrilled about who we got compared to what the SEC is gonna add. Yes I get it. Money, markets, academics.

Only matters to me who added better football. That's the only benefit ill ever see from this. And the way it looks now, we didn't add much in that way at all.

[bearsfan_51]

You can improve your football by getting more money.

[wicket]

god this conference shifting stuff is killing cfb. you can bet that most teams will plan absolutely no OOC games making most schedules virtual 6 games schedules (see what the sec does now) and noone will have a good idea who are the actual best teams

[Grizzlegom]

If everyone goes to 16, the next rule I want in place is no cupcakes for your few OOC games. Everyone should have to play OOC games against other major conferences. That would be nice.

[Smooth Criminal]

Originally Posted by bearsfan_51

You can improve your football by getting more money.

Definitely. But that takes a good deal of time to get new facilities/coaches and recruiting. And is certainly not a guarentee even if you make all the right moves. I really don't see any these schools making the jump to a true contender for the conference anyone soon.

Just a little jealous if the SEC adding schools like Texas A&M, VT, and FSU potentially while we pick out the bottom feeders from other conferences. Don't we have enough mediocre/terrible teams already?

Really though look what were getting. Maryland, Rutgers, UVA, and Georgia Tech. Let me know when one of them is competing for a Rose bowl.

And the other reason I hate it. Look at Ohio States new likely division. Penn State, Virginia, Rutgers, Georgia Tech, Maryland, Wisconsin, and Indiana. Or drop one of them and add Purdue. We're gonna be in the new Big Ten.

[bearsfan_51]

Originally Posted by wicket

god this conference shifting stuff is killing cfb.

Yeah, college football is just falling apart at the seams.

[Smooth Criminal]

Nothing kills college football. It will make more money and grow. We will watch no matter what.

Big Ten conference expansion looks like a huge success for the Big Ten. They got the tv markets and programs they wanted. From a fans perspective I still think its a complete failure. Diluting the conference and giving us less good matchups a year.

Glad OSU has said they're going to make an effort to schedule bigger ooc games. They're going to need them playing the new division.

[Iamcanadian]

I don't think expansion will turnout to be great for college football, schedules will be watered down considerably in order to fit in all the new teams. Teams like Alabama, LSU, Georgia and Florida may only play each other occasionally rather than every 2 years and each conference will inevitably end up with 4 or 5 teams that totally suck.
Will Ohio St. play Michigan every year??? Will Texas play Oklahoma? or are these traditional rivalries in question along with many others. With so many possible weak teams in every conference, do the top schools pass up traditional rivalries in order to guarantee a better record thereby watering down college football. After alll, 16 teams absolutely means, there will be far fewer OOC games and far more weaker sisters in every conference.

[brat316]

Originally Posted by draftguru151

Georiga Tech and UVA will announce decision to leave ACC by Monday. Will join Big 10.

Still waiting on the decision.

[MassNole]

There may be something to the rumors of the B1G having interest in FSU. I don't buy it academically, but apparently the B1G would help FSU join the AAU.

[Smooth Criminal]

I wish. That would make me so much happier. But it won't happen.

[diabsoule]

Who hasn't seen this coming: Big East Catholic schools held meeting in New York to discuss possibly breaking away on their own. http://ajerseyguy.com

[derza222]

Just brings up the point, Villanova has been so dumb through the conference expansion process. They had an opportunity to move up to the Big East before the major defections, decided to half ass it, and lost that opportunity. Had they made a legitimate case to move up they'd probably have a shot to get into the ACC and at least have some stability in a conference that, frankly, would have some similar schools with the defections that they've had/they appear likely to have going forward. Instead they're talking about essentially forming a mid-major basketball conference in a college athletics landscape that's all about football. Huge gap there. Just roll the dice with a move up and take a shot on having a future in college athletics instead of turning into Holy Cross.

/rant

[diabsoule]

Agree about Nova.

But let's say that the 7 Catholic schools break away and form a mid-major basketball conference. Do they try to entice Xavier, Dayton, Butler, Richmond, and St. Louis to join? If those schools did join a new basketball-only Big East that would make it one hell of a basketball conference.

[MassNole]

Originally Posted by diabsoule

Who hasn't seen this coming: Big East Catholic schools held meeting in New York to discuss possibly breaking away on their own. http://ajerseyguy.com

This has been in the works for 15 years.