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View Poll Results: Eddie George or Tiki Barber
Eddie George is Better, but both should be in the Hall of fame 14 17.07%
Eddie George is Better. Only George should be in Hall of Fame 29 35.37%
Tiki Barber is Better but both should be in the Hall 15 18.29%
Tiki is Better. Only Tiki should be in Hall of Fame 24 29.27%
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Old 04-19-2007, 04:04 AM    (permalink
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The more I think about it... There's very few Eddie Georges and very few Tikis..

Looking over the past say 5-10 years...

Tiki-Like players: Barry Sanders, Marshall Faulk (I should be saying Faulk-Like, but you get the Idea)

George Like Players: Larry Johnson, Jerome Bettis, Jamal Anderson.

It's damn near impossible to compare these 2. They're completely different.

Tiki was more of a patient find the hole and explode guy with receiving ability where George was more of a Forget patience just pound the ball until the defense gives up type.


But frankly... George Carried the Titans to the superbowl whereas, Tiki never did that for the Giants...





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George won the NFL Rookie of the Year award in 1996, and was the Titans' starting tailback until 2003, never missing a start due to injury. He made the Pro Bowl 4 times (1997-2000), and assisted the Titans to a championship appearance in Super Bowl XXXIV, where they lost to the St. Louis Rams 23-16. George gained 391 combined rushing and receiving yards in the Titans' 3 playoff games that year, and went on to rush for 95 yards, catch 2 passes for 35 yards, and score 2 touchdowns in the Super Bowl.

George signed a one-year contract with the Dallas Cowboys on July 23, 2004 for $1.5 million plus incentives that could have earned him more than the $4.25 million he would have made under his contract with the Titans, who released him on July 21 in part due to salary cap considerations. He is out of football as of the 2005 NFL season. Though he has not yet announced his retirement, it is unlikely he will ever play again.

His career totals include 10,441 rushing yards, 268 receptions, 2,227 receiving yards, and 78 touchdowns(68 rushing and 10 receiving).


Tiki(The more I read, he's put himself in with HOFers in every category, despite only having the light come on a bit later):

* In 2006, Barber became only the 21st player in NFL history to rush for over 10,000 yards during his career. Tiki also became the third player in NFL history to gain more than 10,000 rushing yards and 5,000 receiving yards in a NFL career, joining Marshall Faulk and Marcus Allen.

* Led NFL in total yards from scrimmage: 2004, 2005
* 38 games of 100+ yards rushing
* 5 games of 200+ yards rushing
* Pro Bowl: 2005, 2006, 2007
* First player in NFL history with 1,800 rushing yards and 500 receiving yards in one season
* In 2005, Barber became one of three players in NFL history with at least three 200-yard rushing games in a season (O.J. Simpson had three in 1973 and Earl Campbell ran for at least 200 yards four times in 1980)
* He is one of only five running backs to have over 400 receptions and 10,000 yards rushing. Walter Payton, Marshall Faulk, Marcus Allen, and Thurman Thomas are the other four.
* In 2006, Tiki Barber became the third player in NFL history to have four 2,000 total yard seasons, joining Marshall Faulk and Dante Hall.
* In 2006, Tiki Barber became the third player in NFL history to have at least 2,100 rushing attempts and 575 receptions in a career, joining Marcus Allen and Marshall Faulk.
* Tiki Barber is the third player in NFL history to be the career leader in both rushing yards and receptions with their respective NFL Franchises, joining Chicago Bears Walter Payton and Tampa Bay Buccaneers James Wilder.
* Tiki Barber is the fourth running back in NFL history to lead their respective NFL Franchises in career receptions, joining Walter Payton (Chicago Bears), James Wilder ( Tampa Bay Buccaneers) and Larry Centers (Arizona Cardinals).
* Tiki Barber led the Giants in rushing in every game from the beginning of the 2002 season through the end of the 2006 season, an NFL record 80 consecutive games.
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I think Tiki is also fourth all time in YPC with RBs over 2,000 carries. Only behind Jim Brown, OJ Simpson, and Barry Sanders.
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Tiki shouldn't come close, he had a few very good seasons and a bunch of meaningless action. Terrell Davis was similar only his productive seasons were great and he's not going to get in.

eacan sums up why George shouldn't either.
Terrell Davis could have been one of the greatest running backs ever if he did not have some 300 pound guy roll up on his leg. And that was his own teammate that did it. It was an accident though.
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Tiki is a borderline Hall of Famer, though he has more of a part of a foot in the door than other borderline guys.
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Tiki is a borderline Hall of Famer, though he has more of a part of a foot in the door than other borderline guys.
He is only gonna help himself by staying in the spotlight working on the NBC football show and whatever after that.
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He is only gonna help himself by staying in the spotlight working on the NBC football show and whatever after that.
Every athlete who works in the media after their career helps themselves. Witness Don Drysdale.
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Every athlete who works in the media after their career helps themselves. Witness Don Drysdale.
Yeah its doing wonders for Sean Salisbury, Merill Hoge, Sterling Sharpe and Jamie Dukes.
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Yeah its doing wonders for Sean Salisbury, Merill Hoge, Sterling Sharpe and Jamie Dukes.
They were never good players. It will help Shannon Sharpe although he is terrible on TV.
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Yeah its doing wonders for Sean Salisbury, Merill Hoge, Sterling Sharpe and Jamie Dukes.
Does any one even consider any of these people Hall of Famers? Lay down the crack pipe.
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Does any one even consider any of these people Hall of Famers? Lay down the crack pipe.
You made a broad and general statement Ass Clown and I merely poked holes in it.
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They were never good players. It will help Shannon Sharpe although he is terrible on TV.
Sterling Sharpe is one of the greatest WR's to play the game. But I know you know that and I see your point about the others.
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I think Tiki is also fourth all time in YPC with RBs over 2,000 carries. Only behind Jim Brown, OJ Simpson, and Barry Sanders.
The guy doesn't handle short yardage situations, so his YPC is going to be higher than all-purpose backs. Plus his lack of TDs will really hurt him.
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Sterling Sharpe is one of the greatest WR's to play the game. But I know you know that and I see your point about the others.
I know, but he still isn't HOF worthy. I'm saying being in the public eye can only help a player who is borderline HOF. Or get someone who should be in the HOF, earlier than they deserve to be.
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Listen, both Eddie George and Tiki Barber had about 5 years of brilliant production. I'm not sure that their overall stat totals and total amount of dominance are enough to make a clear HOF argument.
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The guy doesn't handle short yardage situations, so his YPC is going to be higher than all-purpose backs. Plus his lack of TDs will really hurt him.
But not handling short yardage works both ways. If he ran short yardage more often sure his YPC might have gone down a little, but then his TDs would have have gone up as well.
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