Week 14 Discussion Thread

[Jvig43]

Originally Posted by Ness

Since when I was just talking about this game and not the overall scope of Texans season?

You literally, LITERALLY said that the texans defense was melting down tonight. Its right in the quote of my last post. hahaha lol wut?

[TheBoyWonder22]

What was Chandler Jones being a douche about?

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Ness

Yes the entire team is off their mark tonight. It happens. But they're also 11-1, soon to be 11-2. Assuming they even do get behind when they play an opponent on their home field, it depends who it is. They haven't had to play from behind that many times, this is true. Sorry, I'm just not willing to play the fraud/overrated card on them. Not yet.

That's fine. I respect that. Just out of curiosity, who do you have coming out of the AFC?

I think right here right now, I'm leaning towards the Broncos. I want to say the Steelers but I don't even know if they're going to make the playoffs.

My brain says the Patriots but it feels like that team goes to the SB every other year and I just can't see them doing it again.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by Jvig43

You literally, LITERALLY said that the texans defense was melting down tonight. Its right in the quote of my last post. hahaha lol wut?

And? That doesn't mean me and BBD weren't talking about the entire scope of the entire Texans season. That was the main premise. Which is why I responded to him. Go back and read if you don't believe me. The conversations we were having weren't just about tonight's game.

[SuperPacker]

The Broncos and Patriots are the only teams I could see getting to the Superbowl from the AFC.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

That's fine. I respect that. Just out of curiosity, who do you have coming out of the AFC?

I think right here right now, I'm leaning towards the Broncos. I want to say the Steelers but I don't even know if they're going to make the playoffs.

My brain says the Patriots but it feels like that team goes to the SB every other year and I just can't see them doing it again.

The Super Bowl? Before the season I said Houston. Now, I would say the Broncos seem to be the "smart pick". They look like they're going to be the AFC champions at this point. I think the Patriots defense will let them down at some point. Same with the Ravens who really seem inconsistent as of late.

[Ness]

That was a great tackle by Hightower.

[bigbluedefense]

This Patriots defense is tackling well tonight.

Xs and Os aside, 50% of defense is tackling. It's the most fundamental principle of defense that's overlooked so often. All the great defenses in this league are great tackling defenses, regardless of what scheme they run.

If you tackle well, you're gonna play good defense.

[Jvig43]

Originally Posted by Ness

And? That doesn't mean me and BBD weren't talking about the entire scope of the entire Texans season. That was the main premise. Which is why I responded to him. Go back and read if you don't believe me. The conversations we were having weren't just about tonight's game.

Hahah yes you were referring to the entire scope. You still tried saying that tonight was an example of the defense melting down rather than Shaubs play, you used tonight as an example and it wasn't accurate so I called you out on it. I can read fine.

[cmarq83]

Kyle Arrington is looking like a functional NFL player tonight, dafuq?

[Ness]

Originally Posted by Jvig43

Hahah yes you were referring to the entire scope. You still tried saying that tonight was an example of the defense melting down rather than Shaubs play, you used tonight as an example and it wasn't accurate so I called you out on it.

The defense hasn't played up to it's potential like it has on other times of the season. This reminds me of the game against Jacksonville a couple of weeks back. Even if the offense is struggling, that isn't an excuse to give up 28 points. And it's not like the Texans have been constantly turning the ball over giving the Patriots good field position for their scores.

Regardless, that doesn't matter. Like I said earlier, I wasn't just talking about this game. If you want to take out some little part of my statement and nitpick about it, then proceed. But I assumed you were quoting me to respond to the bigger picture I had been discussing with BBD. I also just said the entire team was struggling, including Schaub.

[cmarq83]

What an athlete.

[bigbluedefense]

The flaw with the Texans defense: CB depth.

This year Joseph is having a down year bc of injuries, and they lack depth at CB so if you spread them out, you stretch out Wade's blitzes, and you isolate CBs who can get picked on.

Wade has never been a great coverage DC. He makes his money on his blitz packages. If you can spread his defense out, and pick on those 2nd and 3rd DBs, you can score on them.

[bigbluedefense]

Thats why the 2 teams that lit them up are 2 teams who have the talent to go 4 wide and empty set. That's the blueprint to beating this defense.

[Jvig43]

Welker, are you going to catch a ******* ball in the second half or drop them all?

Holy **** we are so lucky.

[bigbluedefense]

Originally Posted by Jvig43

Welker, are you going to catch a ******* ball in the second half or drop them all?

You're winning by 28 points...

[AntoinCD]

That's Welker's 4th drop this game!!!

[Ness]

This is just not Houston's night. Especially when things like that happen.

[Raiderz4Life]

Lmao wtf, what a crazy sequence

[AntoinCD]

Lol Brilliant

[fenikz]

did they get rid of the rule where you cant fumble forward? i remember it ******* the cardinals a few years back

[Jvig43]

Originally Posted by bigbluedefense

You're winning by 28 points...

35 actually.

[proshoota25]

waht happened? not watching anymore

[SuperPacker]

Originally Posted by Jvig43

35 actually.

28 actually.

[fenikz]

watt stripped woodhead flies forward 15 yards into the end zone and is recovered by lloyd