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Old 10-23-2012, 10:13 AM    (permalink
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How so? This is exactly what happened. Calling him undraftable and saying he will never do anything in the NFL are two different things.
He went undrafted, but he wasn't undraftable as a prospect. Why does that make more sense in my head than it does when I type it out? I just woke up so I'm going to blame that.
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Who knows if he would've gotten his head right if he'd gone in, say, the 3rd or 4th or even late in the draft? Maybe a wakeup call like that is exactly what he needed.
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Man, some of you were so wrong about his talent level.

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Don't Taze Me Bro.
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Yesterday was his best game all season.
The last few games he looked pretty bad.
Glad he decided to turn it on.
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I think this was kind of an interesting thread looking back, because BeerBaron was totally right - but those of us who were incredulous at the thought that Burfict would drop out of the draft, thinking he was at least a plug-and-play 2 down run-stopping linebacker, are looking pretty right, too. How does that happen? I'd love to have heard those interviews. He must have been awful.
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Zimmer, the DC for Cincy has a way of resurrecting college players who haven't done as well in college as expected. Burfict is just another project he has taken off the dump heap and put life back into his career. Their HC is probably good at it too.

Of course Burfict had talent but he wasn't using it in his last year of college, he was out of shape and seemed lost on the field and that is why he went undrafted. Lucky for him, he picked Cincy to sign with because the DC and HC were a perfect fit for him.

Anybody who predicted success for him based off his last year of college football were being foolish and there was no possible way of knowing the Cincy coaches could reach this guy. They simply have a way of getting maximum performance out of very suspect prospects.
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Was talkin to a buddy about Taze and it reminded me of this thread. I'm glad people were wrong about him, kid is a stud.
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Was talkin to a buddy about Taze and it reminded me of this thread. I'm glad people were wrong about him, kid is a stud.
The great thing about this thread is that BeerBaron was both completely right and terribly wrong at the same time.
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Smells like some sizzled crow.

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Interesting interpretation of an accurate prediction...
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"But now, you take away the "elite" from "physical talent" with a pair of Brandon Spikes-level awful combine runs and you're left with a hot headed player whose "first instinct is to swing on a guy" and you're left with garbage."

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171 tackles is garbage to you I take it...
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Burfict is talented player but god damn he did everything to murder his stock. He cost his teams wins with his reckless attitude on the field, came to the combine and ran the slowest 40 time of all LBs at 5.09, got popped for weed at the combine, and then blamed his coaches for his poor junior year. You have to get professional help to do worse than that.
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SP said he flat out had no talent, lol. Harsh.
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"But now, you take away the "elite" from "physical talent" with a pair of Brandon Spikes-level awful combine runs and you're left with a hot headed player whose "first instinct is to swing on a guy" and you're left with garbage."

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171 tackles is garbage to you I take it...
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Burfict is talented player but god damn he did everything to murder his stock. He cost his teams wins with his reckless attitude on the field, came to the combine and ran the slowest 40 time of all LBs at 5.09, got popped for weed at the combine, and then blamed his coaches for his poor junior year. You have to get professional help to do worse than that.
He was putting together a series of events that might have made his pre draft offseason the worst ive ever seen from a potential first round prospect.

I thought he was a 1st rounder, i mad a big time man crush on him...but i totally see why teams would hesitate to draft him.

Glad he turned it around though, even if it is with the bengals
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Ok, so are we now going to do this for every single prospect discussed on this page??

Very few people said Burfict had no talent. A lot of people stated their opinions of Burfict and why they thought he would go undrafted. I commented saying he had talent but lacked discipline, instincts and was more likely to hurt his own team. Then combined with a bad work out and character concerns it was a recipe to fall in the draft.

Sure Burfict is playing pretty well now but that has no bearing on what he was as a prospect. When you have some question marks over your game, have a bad workpout and then get questioned over your character it is only expected you will fall.

Hell, look at Greg Hardy. His tape was pretty damn good in college but he had some niggling injuries. Relatively poor workout combined with a perceived character issue and he fell to the 6th round. And he was just considered as a bit out there whereas Burfict was seen as toxic.

Both players had the talent to be higher picks. Hardy should have been a first rounder, Burfict probably a second rounder based on ability.

For all we know going undrafted was the best thing to happen to Burfict.
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Let's not go overboard the OTHER way now here either.

He's played pretty well for a pretty good Bengals defense in the past year.

That doesn't prove anything about his NFL prospects. Look at Jason Pierre-Paul (who we were ready to crown the NFL's best pass rusher after his second season) and other one-hit-wonders throughout NFL history: playing great for one year doesn't guarantee anything beyond that one year.

Burfict's history of personal issues and anger problems could still easily derail his career.
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Wow, I didn't realize Burfict was the guy who was a complete train wreck in college (I heard about that stuff and remember thinking what a complete idiot).

How did the Bengals get so lucky.
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Let's not go overboard the OTHER way now here either.

He's played pretty well for a pretty good Bengals defense in the past year.

That doesn't prove anything about his NFL prospects. Look at Jason Pierre-Paul (who we were ready to crown the NFL's best pass rusher after his second season) and other one-hit-wonders throughout NFL history: playing great for one year doesn't guarantee anything beyond that one year.

Burfict's history of personal issues and anger problems could still easily derail his career.

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Is that the same play, where after he intercepts the ball he is outran by the defensive linemen on his own team?

Burfict was attempting to rush the passer. USC tried to throw a middle screen that ended up being thrown directly at him, due to his inability to get to the QB. If you watch that play, and see "reacting quickly" or "reading the QBs eyes" then you cannot be helped.

Terrible gap discipline, countless bad angles, slow reacting to the snap.... he is everything you don't want in a LB.

Look at the back to back plays at 3:42... what is he doing? He has no idea. When you add in the awful workout numbers, and the fact that he's a mental case. He's undraftable.
Since this thread got bumped I'm going to toot my own horn here.

Playoff game aside, please tell me which other 5th round or later LBs you would have drafted from this draft over Taze?

He made it as a starter, was selected to a Prob Bowl and cracked the top 100 players of 2014.

Oh, and he lead his team in tackles his rookie year.
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If Vontaze went to any respectable program or if he was self motivated/sane he would have been one of the best LB prospects in the last decade, but he went to ASU under Dennis Erickson, so he was just a chubby dude who played football and went to parties with a 10 man entourage

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If Vontaze went to any respectable program or if he was self motivated/sane he would have been one of the best LB prospects in the last decade, but he went to ASU under Dennis Erickson, so he was just a chubby dude who played football and went to parties with a 10 man entourage

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I totally agree.

I just find it funny that people were trying so hard to not like him as a prospect. The talent was undeniably there, he's just always been missing the other pieces that make a player great.
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I totally agree.

I just find it funny that people were trying so hard to not like him as a prospect. The talent was undeniably there, he's just always been missing the other pieces that make a player great.


Burfict got kicked off the team at ASU, missed a ton of plays a guy with his alleged skillset should have made, had a rep for being uncoachable, he blew off the combine, ran like an olineman and had a mess of character red flags that made him 'undraftable' for some teams.

No one is saying he didn't have talent, but people were comparing him to Ray Lewis and he was NEVER that guy.


I think his supporters are underestimating just how much Burfict turned his entire program around once he got to Cincinnati.

Because at one point he was looking like the Maurice Clarett of LBing prospects; a guy with NFL tools but was too messed up in the head and too immature to make it as a pro.

Willie Williams was another highly regarded can't miss prep LBer who went to U Miami and fell on his face and off the map.

Guys bust all the time and sometimes you can smell them from a mile away.

As a pure football fan, I'm glad Burfict appears to have straightened his sh#t out.

But it was far from a sure thing.

For people to gloat now like it was given Burfict would thrive in the NFL is revisionist thinking.
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