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Old 01-04-2013, 11:54 AM    (permalink
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I was really hoping Anthony Barr would declare. BEAST.
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On next weeks podcast we're going to be joined by Injury Expert Will Carroll to discuss how health issues could affect Jones' stock. I know I'm looking forward to it so be sure to tune in!
The encouraging thing for Jones is that Marcus McNeil had a similar situation and played at a high level for decent amount of years, but then Jarvis Jones isn't a 300 lb offensive lineman. I'm no back expert, but i'd guess that the heavier the player the harder it would be to overcome. I really don't think it will drop him down too far. Even if you can get only 6 years out of him playing at a high level, it would be worth spending a first round pick on, IMO.
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Syracuse OT Justin Pugh is coming out. A very good player and I know there are some who feel he has first round potential. However, I would lean toward a Top 100 label at this point and I wouldn't even be shocked if some health issues (shoulder) pushed him into the middle rounds.
Not surprised he's coming out from what people have been saying back there. He needs to bulk up a bit but he's a solid tackle. He was 3 time all big east for whatever that's worth.

The depth on the offensive line keeps growing. If DJ Fluker declares and Lewan of course this group could be stellar.

At first glance the offensive and defensive lines are the strength of this draft.
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David Amerson has officially declared now.
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I've read that LSU is basically about to lose every Junior that is up for the draft. Spencer Ware is gone, Bennie Logan is up next and of course Mingo & Montgomery.
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nelson agholor should declare!
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Another from LSU! CB Tharold Simon. I gather this is a bit of a surprise. From what I read he has good measurables, but can anyone enlighten me on his play?

Florida TE Jordan Read has also declared.

Where do these guys project?

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I've read that LSU is basically about to lose every Junior that is up for the draft. Spencer Ware is gone, Bennie Logan is up next and of course Mingo & Montgomery.
Not that it matters but isn't Montgomery a senior?
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Another from LSU! CB Tharold Simon. I gather this is a bit of a surprise. From what I read he has good measurables, but can anyone enlighten me on his play?

Florida TE Jordan Read has also declared.

Where do these guys project?

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I'd expect both to get taken on day 2 somewhere. Maybe early day 3 if they don't put up good numbers at the combine.
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The encouraging thing for Jones is that Marcus McNeil had a similar situation and played at a high level for decent amount of years, but then Jarvis Jones isn't a 300 lb offensive lineman. I'm no back expert, but i'd guess that the heavier the player the harder it would be to overcome. I really don't think it will drop him down too far. Even if you can get only 6 years out of him playing at a high level, it would be worth spending a first round pick on, IMO.
I don't think the weight is as important as is the frequency of contact. I would think OLB would be getting contact like an OLineman about 3/4 to 2/3 as much. Still, McNeill had a decent career, but the word was that he may only play 8 years due to the condition. He made it 6. I'm sure every case is different though.
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Not that it matters but isn't Montgomery a senior?
No he is a junior.
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Any word on Michael Dyer?
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No, but does it matter? :)
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well this class just got its best running back: Jawan Jamison declaring
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No, but does it matter? :)
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I think it's a mistake for Jamison. I see him going 4th round.
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Gio Bernard declared quite some time ago.
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Off-field issues aside, from a pure talent perspective, Dyer would be hands down the best RB in this class with no elite prospects at the position, so it matters big time. Hoping he declares and the Jets get him personally, he'd be a steal whatever round he goes.
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Off-field issues aside, from a pure talent perspective, Dyer would be hands down the best RB in this class with no elite prospects at the position, so it matters big time. Hoping he declares and the Jets get him personally, he'd be a steal whatever round he goes.
I think that's a huge stretch. Dyer is very good but even if he was clean character-wise I don't think he would have been a sure-fire Top 100 pick. At best he would be battling for one of the top spots in this year's running back rankings, but as the situation stands he's nothing more than a potential late rounder of priority free agent in my humble opinion.
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Aaron Colvin, Tony Jefferson, Trey Millard, and Kenny Stills will probably all declare from Oklahoma.
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