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Old 01-18-2013, 10:08 AM    (permalink
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I liked Fallon's comment on it.

"Even the imaginary girls would rather date a jock."
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If you read the Deadspin instead of listening to ESPN or a newspaper, if you actually read the article written by the actual investigators and breakers of this story, you can't reasonably come away from it saying Te'o was suckered into it.
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Not sure this question has been asked, but would you guys take him on your team? I'd be a hypocrite if I said no, but this all screams shady to me.
I honestly donīt want him to replace #52 in the middle of the Ravens defense. Wasnīt overly impressed with him as a prospect to begin with, and after all this mess I sincerily doubt his "impeccable character and leadership qualities"..

If he is still on the board when Ravens are on the clock in round 1, Im really afraid that Ozzie Newsome does his old "Pick up talented player falling because of off the field stuff" move..
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How ****** is it when you overshadow your grandma's death with a fake gf's death to rally a heisman campaign?
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:27 AM    (permalink
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How ****** is it when you overshadow your grandma's death with a fake gf's death to rally a heisman campaign?
That's what I've been thinking this whole time. I don't know what his relationship was with his grandma or the inner workings of his mind, but that's pretty messed up.
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How ****** is it when you overshadow your grandma's death with a fake gf's death to rally a heisman campaign?
That is an angle I hadn't really considered. This kid seems like a narcissist at best, and possibly a sociopath. "Normal" people don't do these sorts of things.
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Yeah, because how could you even repeat or talk about the fake girl to ESPN people after that? You think he would have at least downplayed it or have been more uncomfortable about it. Its pretty disrespectful to your family to put someone else's fake death on a pedestal.
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HBO it is up to you to make which ever team gets Manti Te'o on Hard Knocks. There is no other option. SPEND 1 BILLION DOLLARS FOR IT.
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Yeah, because how could you even repeat or talk about the fake girl to ESPN people after that? You think he would have at least downplayed it or have been more uncomfortable about it. Its pretty disrespectful to your family to put someone else's fake death on a pedestal.
It's even more messed up because it looks as though his family (at least Dad) had some knowledge/involvement.


The only real options at this point for Manti are Complete Moron or Jersey Shore-esque attention ho douchenozzle taken to an extreme even those asshats didn't dare.
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What's funny is that whenever Te'o does an interview or press conference or whatever, EVERYBODY will immediately know if his story stays consistent with what he's said in the past.. Because every single thing he's previously said to the media has been listened to and re-read a billion times by now.
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He was duped in the beginning but the media spun it into a big story that he ended up playing along with. That's what I think.
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So...

Its the equivalent of being an innocent bystander sitting in your vehicle next to a bank that has just been robbed. The robbers choose your vehicle and take you by gunpoint. You drive the robbers out of the area and at the end they reward you with a bag of money. You take the money and shut up. Eventually, you turn them in but still keep the money.

And that's best case scenario.
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He was duped in the beginning but the media spun it into a big story that he ended up playing along with. That's what I think.
ND stated that he found out on December 6th and he had interviews after that point where he was still playing up the story and how she was his inspiration- blah blah.

Hilarious. No matter how this shakes out he's either an idiot that lied to cover it up. Or he's a habitual liar who requires media attention.
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ND stated that he found out on December 6th and he had interviews after that point where he was still playing up the story and how she was his inspiration- blah blah.
Isn't that what I said? I don't blame him for playing along with it as his inspiration was helping his team and the only thing revealing it would've done was cause a distraction. Not like he was committing a crime. People need to get over the fact that at the very worst, this was just a cover up lie. Not steroids, not cheating, not rape, not point shaving, not an NCAA violation... just a personal lie that he didn't want coming out.
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At this point it's more about his morality than anything. He didn't violate anything. He just lied about something and it's not right to lie about a big thing like this in this society.

it's still hilarious.
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So...

Its the equivalent of being an innocent bystander sitting in your vehicle next to a bank that has just been robbed. The robbers choose your vehicle and take you by gunpoint. You drive the robbers out of the area and at the end they reward you with a bag of money. You take the money and shut up. Eventually, you turn them in but still keep the money.

And that's best case scenario.
Which part of it is him keeping the money? Any good publicity he gained has been completely washed out since he told ND about it and this story broke.
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At this point it's more about his morality than anything. He didn't violate anything. He just lied about something and it's not right to lie about a big thing like this in this society.

it's still hilarious.
Meh, not all lies are bad. People who criticize others for lying are just hypocrites anyways.

The story is hilarious, the way the media is handling this is hilarious but the MOST hilarious part are seeing people's negative reactions to it.
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Keeping the money was from not mentioning it until after the championship game. He shouldn't have still been emotional and an actor when talking about her in interviews after 'knowing' it was fake. He should have just brushed the questions aside, but he still ran with the story.

Maybe we just don't understand. Words like dead, leukemia, and girlfriend are all relative. Dead could just mean "no longer a part of his life", pretty much in the same way that the dude standing next to me at Burger King is now dead to me. Leukemia...she was a cancer to his life. Girlfriend, well she fulfilled the spiritual role of girlfriend even though she was make-believe.
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Not all lies are bad. But lying about the death of someone who isn't likely real isn't a good action at all. Still lying about it after you learned that she was ''false'' on december 6th isn't good.

It just proves that Teo has no regards as far as his morals go.
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Let me rephrase that. It's not ethically correct.
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Nobody should believe him. But I guess I must be a lot stupider than I thought, or a fellow sociopath, because I can easily understand his mindset and how this has gotten to this point. Sometimes you tell a lie for the lols, or for attention, or for whatever reason, and **** spirals out of control. Te'o did a hilariously bad job of handling it and deserves all of the jokes he can get, but it's starting to bother me that Internet psychiatrists are questioning his mental state. He's clearly a stupid college kid, but that's probably all this is. And again, I would take him on the Bears in a heartbeat. He's still an awesome linebacker.
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Meh, not all lies are bad. People who criticize others for lying are just hypocrites anyways.

The story is hilarious, the way the media is handling this is hilarious but the MOST hilarious part are seeing people's negative reactions to it.
I'm on board with the idea that the whole situation got way out of hand on him. He'll be villified if he's in on it (which I think is ~99% likely) simply b/c it was such a big deal and grabbed the attention of the national media. Once you draw the ire of the media they go all apeshit when you make them look silly. Not that it's their own fault for never bothering to fact-check anymore, mind you.

Hypocrisy is the norm. Which is why I am so wildly amused with the extremes of this one. It's asinine that anyone can really believe this kid is 100% victim and it's equally foolish to try and claim he's got some serious mental issue +/- homosexuality as the root cause.
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Keeping the money was from not mentioning it until after the championship game. He shouldn't have still been emotional and an actor when talking about her in interviews after 'knowing' it was fake. He should have just brushed the questions aside, but he still ran with the story.

Maybe we just don't understand. Words like dead, leukemia, and girlfriend are all relative. Dead could just mean "no longer a part of his life", pretty much in the same way that the dude standing next to me at Burger King is now dead to me. Leukemia...she was a cancer to his life. Girlfriend, well she fulfilled the spiritual role of girlfriend even though she was make-believe.
All that would've done was cause a huge distraction leading to the Championship game. But you don't wanna see that right?
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Not all lies are bad. But lying about the death of someone who isn't likely real isn't a good action at all. Still lying about it after you learned that she was ''false'' on december 6th isn't good.

It just proves that Teo has no regards as far as his morals go.
You're suggesting that he started the lie.

Morals??? He came forward to the school about it. You don't think ND encouraged him to not bring it forward in the media before the Championship game? C'mon...
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All that would've done was cause a huge distraction leading to the Championship game. But you don't wanna see that right?
I understand your point, however the timeline doesn't match up. If he stood up during the 2nd week of December and said, "wait, stop your prayers and your charity foundations because the girl is a fake. I just learned this and it is hard for me, but please bear with me as we figure this out." I would have had great respect for him and he would have been fine. There still would have been 3-4 weeks until the championship game and his character would be undeniable.

However...he kept talking about the stuff after he knew and basically is a giant *****. It wasn't about the team then, it was all about himself. That's with ignoring the reports of the teammates saying they doubted the girlfriend story.
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