Championship Week 2 Rounder - Page 2

steelersrock151 · 01-14-2013, 08:38 PM

Steelers have 4 1st and 2nd rounders on their line from the last three years, and Kelvin Beachum (7th) showed some serious ability at the end of the year. Unless his name is Womack, Steelers won't be drafting line in the first two rounds. Look Rush linebacker (Ansah, Okafor, Jordan) or ILB (Mintner or Ogletree- the way your draft plays out).

Robcards · 01-15-2013, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by steelersrock151

Steelers have 4 1st and 2nd rounders on their line from the last three years, and Kelvin Beachum (7th) showed some serious ability at the end of the year. Unless his name is Womack, Steelers won't be drafting line in the first two rounds. Look Rush linebacker (Ansah, Okafor, Jordan) or ILB (Mintner or Ogletree- the way your draft plays out).

Difference between their LBs and O-line is that their lbs are actually under contract. And keep in mind they have Sean spence at ILB coming back from injury. OLB depth is definitely a need though I could see them going that direction for sure.

Robcards · 01-15-2013, 05:58 AM

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I think Damontre Moore is definitely someone that will be on the Lions' radar, but I don't think there is any way they go with a TE in the 2nd round. There are glaring holes at WR, CB, S, and LB that need to be addressed before they consider a TE.

I'm familiar with the Lions situation and they'd be fools to re-sign Pettigrew. Considering how important TE is in their scheme, I think they have to take Ertz if he's there in the 2nd.

Robcards · 01-15-2013, 06:38 AM

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That trade is still heavily favoring Arizona. A 3rd just isn't enough.

http://www.draftcountdown.com/features/Value-Chart.php

Also, Seymour is a free agent. They will be cutting Kelly, though.

Star would be a strong pick right there, all else aside.

I don't think that chart is entirely accurate. Jaguars only gave up a 4th to move up from 7 to 5 last year, the chart indicates it should've been a 3rd. Honestly I don't think the trade favors Arizona at all. Oakland gets an early third and they give up a guy that they don't really need, so essentially they only move back 3 spots not 4. I don't think there's anything wrong with that trade. Joeckel isn't exactly rg3

JHasley10 · 01-15-2013, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Robcards

Chargers have a ton of needs, OLineman you could at least get value from in FA or 3rd round+. Much tougher to find a workhorse back or every down lb (which I'm projecting Te'o to be in this mock, if he posts slow combine numbers he won't be taken that high obv)

Have you seen our oline?good god Philip Rivers damn near died. Our biggest needs are OT OG CB

Robcards · 01-15-2013, 08:05 PM

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Have you seen our oline?good god Philip Rivers damn near died. Our biggest needs are OT OG CB

I don't make my mocks based on what the teams' biggest needs are, I try to give the BPA that won't cause a mess at a position as that is closer to what the real teams actually do. On my board Te'o is the BPA when the chargers pick and they could def use a ilb, especially with takeo spikes likely retiring this season or next.

Abaddon · 01-19-2013, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Robcards

I don't think that chart is entirely accurate. Jaguars only gave up a 4th to move up from 7 to 5 last year, the chart indicates it should've been a 3rd. Honestly I don't think the trade favors Arizona at all. Oakland gets an early third and they give up a guy that they don't really need, so essentially they only move back 3 spots not 4. I don't think there's anything wrong with that trade. Joeckel isn't exactly rg3

bored of education · 01-19-2013, 09:31 AM

I like this draft for the Chiefs.

Nastradamus · 01-19-2013, 10:55 AM

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I'm familiar with the Lions situation and they'd be fools to re-sign Pettigrew. Considering how important TE is in their scheme, I think they have to take Ertz if he's there in the 2nd.

There's about zero chance we go TE. For one, Pettigrew is already resigned. For 2, we have too many other needs. We still have Scheffler and Heller if Pettigrew keeps sucking. However, he had a pretty low drop rate in 2011 and caught 150 balls in 2010 and 2011. He's a pretty good TE who can block too. He was awful in 2012, but you basically have to try and resurrect his career given our cap situation and all. We have to get 2 defensive players out of the first 2 days, period. A project TE I could maybe see.

Nastradamus · 01-19-2013, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Robcards

I don't think that chart is entirely accurate. Jaguars only gave up a 4th to move up from 7 to 5 last year, the chart indicates it should've been a 3rd. Honestly I don't think the trade favors Arizona at all. Oakland gets an early third and they give up a guy that they don't really need, so essentially they only move back 3 spots not 4. I don't think there's anything wrong with that trade. Joeckel isn't exactly rg3

Yes, but this isn't even close to what RG3 went for. By your logic of Jacksonville moving up for a round less than what the chart said, Arizona should still owe a 2nd. Joeckel is a franchise LT and one of the best prospects at the position we've seen in a while. Its also a desperate need for AZ. You give the 2nd or don't get him IMO. Someone would beat your offer or Oakland can stand pat and take Jones or make sure they get Star there(no guarantee at 7, though they luck out in this scenario)