2013 Senior Bowl Discussion Thread - Page 14

Iamcanadian · 01-24-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PossibleCabbage

There could be a wide receiver who runs in a straight line at 30% the speed of light, and if he can't be counted on to catch the ball when he's open, I'm not sure I want that guy on my team as a receiver (he can run reverses and stuff, but I don't know if that's worth a roster spot.)

Maybe someone will, but Al Davis is dead so the obvious joke doesn't apply anymore.

I mean, let us not forget that Troy Williamson ran a 4.3 and had experience playing wide receiver in college. If you can't catch the ball, you can't play receiver.

You have to remember that Robinson has an injured hand, some say, he shouldn't even be working out. As for just having straight line speed, Robinson has wiggle, a lot of it, it is just raw at this point at WR but the potential is there.

Babylon · 01-24-2013, 10:59 AM

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Official H/W for Ansah yet?

Not sure about official but everything i'm seeing says 6-5 270. I'm going to go out on a lime here and say he doesn't get by the Seattle pick in the first round.

vidae · 01-24-2013, 11:08 AM

My boy Tyler the Creator is having himself quite a week down there in Mobile.

Shane P. Hallam · 01-24-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CrossOfDeath

Do you have some of the late entries such as Sio Moore? I saw on another board that you tweeted Terron Armstead but never saw one for Sio. I don't have a twittner, nor do I ever want to try so I didn't check there.

Should be on there now.

On Warford, I'd take Fluker but do think in a power run scheme Warford could start at LG sooner rather than later and be very effective. Both are Top 50 picks, Fluker even higher now.

Shane P. Hallam · 01-24-2013, 11:34 AM

We'll answer more questions at our live Q&A with Scott, me, and BOE

http://www.draftcountdown.com/featur...orBowl/Q&A.php

bucfan12 · 01-24-2013, 11:38 AM

Anyone particular the buccaneers brass interviewed or met with?

PossibleCabbage · 01-24-2013, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnCandy

» "I don't think it's a done deal that (Texas A&M's Luke) Joeckel will be the top offensive tackle taken. In my opinion, Fisher has more upside." -- AFC Scout

I really think this is Williams/Okung all over again. The consensus top guy throughout the process (in this case Joeckel) is going to get picked after the upside guy (in this case Fisher.)

gpngc · 01-24-2013, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PossibleCabbage

I really think this is Williams/Okung all over again. The consensus top guy throughout the process (in this case Joeckel) is going to get picked after the upside guy (in this case Fisher.)

The situation is somewhat comparable and I definitely could see the end result being the same (both are awesome).

But Williams' ascent came closer to draft day. Fisher is already a top-5ish prospect in this class.

Unbiased · 01-24-2013, 01:40 PM

I always thought blocking scheme fit had more to do with the Redskins picking Williams over Okung.

b316 · 01-24-2013, 01:46 PM

Tavarres King killing it again.

Hop on the bandwagon.

SuperPacker · 01-24-2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bhaarat316

Tavarres King killing it again.

Hop on the bandwagon.

I was on that ages ago.

Babylon · 01-24-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PossibleCabbage

I really think this is Williams/Okung all over again. The consensus top guy throughout the process (in this case Joeckel) is going to get picked after the upside guy (in this case Fisher.)

I think when Williams ran close to 4.8 at the combine compared to Okung around 5.2 he moved ahead. That could be repeated to some degree with Fisher and Joeckel.

Unless there is a huge differance in athletic ability here the level of competition that Joeckel faced this year should carry quite a bit of weight.

Cigaro · 01-24-2013, 04:11 PM

Reading Wednesday's report, looks like Hunt is continuing to be completely unimpressive. I know he's supposedly big, fast and strong, but judging from his collegiate play and how poorly he's doing now, I just really dislike him as a prospect. Hearing that a defensive end's spin move looks as if its being done in slow-mo is never a good sign.

bored of education · 01-24-2013, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Cigaro

Reading Wednesday's report, looks like Hunt is continuing to be completely unimpressive. I know he's supposedly big, fast and strong, but judging from his collegiate play and how poorly he's doing now, I just really dislike him as a prospect. Hearing that a defensive end's spin move looks as if its being done in slow-mo is never a good sign.

He is a guy that is just here it seems. Nothing to flashy, ups and downs.

holt_bruce81 · 01-24-2013, 07:37 PM

Seems like Zaviar Gooden has had a pretty solid week. He's a little soft versus the run though.

stlouisfan37 · 01-24-2013, 08:07 PM

I have heard a lot of good things about Gooden. I think the Rams should draft the hometown kid:-)

stlouisfan37 · 01-24-2013, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bored of education

He is a guy that is just here it seems. Nothing to flashy, ups and downs.

Yeah, I was really high on him coming into this game and the reports have disappointed me, to say the least. How far will this drop him? He could still be a great bargain if he falls to the 4th or 5th round, but I don't think anyone is looking at him as a borderline 1st rounder now, even if he has a really nice game on Saturday. Coaches hate the guy who is a lousy practice player.

Shane P. Hallam · 01-24-2013, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by holt_bruce81

Seems like Zaviar Gooden has had a pretty solid week. He's a little soft versus the run though.

His agent said his 40 time goal is 4.37. If he is in the 4.4s even, he'll shoot up boards.

PossibleCabbage · 01-24-2013, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bored of education

He is a guy that is just here it seems. Nothing to flashy, ups and downs.

I think where Hunt goes in April is going to say a lot about which teams like to draft football players and which teams like to draft athletes.

Since by all accounts, he'll wow in shorts.

D-Unit · 01-25-2013, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam

His agent said his 40 time goal is 4.37. If he is in the 4.4s even, he'll shoot up boards.

What round do folks project him at right now? Round 4? 5?

CrossOfDeath · 01-25-2013, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Shane P. Hallam

His agent said his 40 time goal is 4.37. If he is in the 4.4s even, he'll shoot up boards.

Which is sad, very sad.

I have been following the draft for a long time and linebackers who run extremely fast always fly up boards and get over drafted. Stupid IMO. Nothing should trump film and this guy like so many before him as below average to average film. Linebackers who can run fast and make a tackle 40 yards down field are pointless.

Shane P. Hallam · 01-25-2013, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by D-Unit

What round do folks project him at right now? Round 4? 5?

I'd say 4th round right now.

duesouth · 01-25-2013, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by PossibleCabbage

I really think this is Williams/Okung all over again. The consensus top guy throughout the process (in this case Joeckel) is going to get picked after the upside guy (in this case Fisher.)

I'm not sold on Joeckel - don't think his feet are elite and he gives up his chest too easily (correctable, but think he'll fall back into the habit when stressed early in his career).

I've been impressed with Lane Johnson as well - now he really is the upside guy! Johnson perhaps not for everyone, but figure some will like him more than Fisher?

I would have put Justin Pugh into the discussion as he's a good player - but that arm measurement has ruled him out.

D-Unit · 01-25-2013, 01:07 PM

List the 1st rounders you guys think will come out of this Senior Bowl.

Babylon · 01-25-2013, 03:15 PM

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List the 1st rounders you guys think will come out of this Senior Bowl.

I'll start out with:

Tyler Wilson
DJ Fluker
Lane Johnson
Brian Fisher
Azekial Ansah