Super Bowl XLVII Discussion Thread.

[Monomach]

Originally Posted by SuperPacker

The inaugural NFL All-Sexy team has been released:

QB - Tom Brady
RB - Reggie Bush
FB - Peyton Hillis
WR - Brandon Marshall
WR - Eric Decker
TE - Rob Gronkowski
OT - Matt Kalil
OT - Zebrie Sanders
OG - Danny Watkins
OG - Rodger Saffold
C - Ryan Wendell

DE - Aaron Maybin
DE - Brandon Graham
DT - Kendall Reyes
DT - Brodrick Bunkley
LB - Daryl Washington
LB - Luke Kuechly
LB - Clay Matthews
CB - Aaron Williams
CB - Sam Shields
S - Taylor Mays
S - Jarrett Bush

K - Adam Vinatieri
P - Steve Weatherford

How is Brady Quinn not the QB? He's mantastically handsome. 9/10. Would smash.

[Monomach]

Originally Posted by SuperPacker

there weren't a lot of good looking safeties. :D

Brandon Hardin.

[Brodeur]

Originally Posted by SuperPacker

The inaugural NFL All-Sexy team has been released:

QB - Tom Brady
RB - Reggie Bush
FB - Peyton Hillis
WR - Brandon Marshall
WR - Eric Decker
TE - Rob Gronkowski
OT - Matt Kalil
OT - Zebrie Sanders
OG - Danny Watkins
OG - Rodger Saffold
C - Ryan Wendell

DE - Aaron Maybin
DE - Brandon Graham
DT - Kendall Reyes
DT - Brodrick Bunkley
LB - Daryl Washington
LB - Luke Kuechly
LB - Clay Matthews
CB - Aaron Williams
CB - Sam Shields
S - Taylor Mays
S - Jarrett Bush

K - Adam Vinatieri
P - Steve Weatherford

Brandon Marshall is ugly as ****.

[Jvig43]

Brandon Marshall isn't ugly...... youre just being a homer.

[Monomach]

Originally Posted by Brodeur

Brandon Marshall is ugly as ****.

Don't hate.

[SuperPacker]

Don't hate. Masturbate.

[Ness]

Originally Posted by SuperPacker

there weren't a lot of good looking safeties. :D

There used to be one on your own team. Look at dat fade, dimples, and pearly whites.

[ChiFan24]

Is Will Demps still floating around? He was sexy.

[billybeejr]

Why is there always one veteran that no one cares about winning on these unexpected championship games(Randy Moss, Jason Kidd)

[WCH]

Jarrett Bush is a good looking guy. Did you think that the Packers have kept him around for 7 years because of his play? No, he's just eye candy.

[Giantsfan1080]

Originally Posted by ChiFan24

Is Will Demps still floating around? He was sexy.

Your welcome sir.

[FUNBUNCHER]

This thread needs lots of......!

[Monomach]

Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER

This thread needs lots of......!

That's for sissies. Kills all the feeling.

[Jvig43]

[BeerBaron]

So, there was an interesting question on Mike and Mike this morning that got me thinking.

The question was "If you were starting an expansion team and could have any of this year's rookie QBs or last year's, who do you pick and why?"

Both Jaws and Herman Edwards chose Andrew Luck and Greenie didn't disagree. Their reasoning? He doesn't rely on mobility as much as Griffin, Wilson, Kaepernick or Newton.

Agree? Disagree?

[Jvig43]

Haha outside of Jsagan or those RG3 guys I'm pretty sure everyone on this board would agree with taking Luck. I'm a Pats fan, and even I'm excited to see this guys development.

[BeerBaron]

Originally Posted by Jvig43

Haha outside of Jsagan or those RG3 guys I'm pretty sure everyone on this board would agree with taking Luck. I'm a Pats fan, and even I'm excited to see this guys development.

I think my question is more whether or not you agree with the mobility reasoning.

They mentioned how guys like Brady, Brees, and Manning have had long, productive careers in large part because they don't do as much running around and exposing themselves to big hits.

So does that bit cancel out the added dimension those more mobile QBs bring in your mind?

[Jvig43]

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

I think my question is more whether or not you agree with the mobility reasoning.

They mentioned how guys like Brady, Brees, and Manning have had long, productive careers in large part because they don't do as much running around and exposing themselves to big hits.

So does that bit cancel out the added dimension those more mobile QBs bring in your mind?

I still have yet to be sold on the mobile QB revolutionizing the position notion that alot of people say is going to happen. I don't want to key in on the whole "they just get injured quicker" argument because I think that can be avoidable if they just get it through their damn heads to slide or get out of bounds.

I think my reservations are until I see it work like a pure passer pocket QB like Brees, Manning etc.. I will stick to what has worked for long stretches of time (if I were making said decision of course haha). Vick had a crazy good year with the Eagles a couple years ago but I can't see him doing that again. Cam came on strong at the end of last year, his only concern is keeping his head up when things aren't going well- I think his head is in the right place but he needs to mature. RG3 got run into the ground his first season, and I blame alot of that on the coaching staff for allowing that to happen. Wilson played alot better than I expected him to, and looked good in the post season, sea hawks fans have to be happy about that. And Kap just took his team to the SB while coming in half way through the season, but much of his success is coming out of the option/pistol formations, and its really stunning to me that DC's are getting so stumped by it when the basics for stopping those plays are relatively high school fundamentals (this maybe more or a critique on RG3 then Kap now that I think of it, applies to both at least). Either way I think this 9er team is going to be very scary so long as Kap doesn't come crashing back down to earth after this season.

And having said all that, I'd still want a pure pocket passer like Luck if I were starting a team. I know all of the arguments I can make about him have been done to death in that rookie of the year thread but seriously its so rare to see a rookie get the book thrown at him to run such a sophisticated system and perform at such a high level.

I guess I'll get back to my point here, really until I start seeing that dual threat QBs can stay as effective for extended periods of time and have success in the league, I'll stick with the pocket passers. I have a feeling that RG3's option offense and Kaps pistol will be figured out over time just as alot of people have stated the wild cat was. For me to take these guys, these systems are going to need to prove to have long term success, so i guess time will tell.

[FUNBUNCHER]

What will people think when CK wins the SB with the 49ers??
IMO this is a debate between traditionalists versus new school thinking.

There's a place for both in the NFL.

But I think you'll see QBs who run the read option win the Lombardi at least two more times before Luck wins one.

It still comes down to decision making. I don't think Luck is more accurate or a better passer than Newton/RG3/CK/Wilson, so the question is do you believe Luck's ability to make the right call on where to throw the ball after the snap is better than the other 4 QBs I mentioned??

People need to realize the read-option is only about 20% of the offense run by teams that utilize it. It's not a gimmick. It's a trend.

EDIT: I don't know if I'd classify Luck as a pure dropback(nearly immobile) QB since his combine numbers were nearly identical to Cam Newton's.

No matter how you look at it, teams prefer better athletes at the QB position, whether or not their OCs are going to call specific run plays for them.

[jrdrylie]

Originally Posted by BeerBaron

I think my question is more whether or not you agree with the mobility reasoning.

They mentioned how guys like Brady, Brees, and Manning have had long, productive careers in large part because they don't do as much running around and exposing themselves to big hits.

So does that bit cancel out the added dimension those more mobile QBs bring in your mind?

I agree completely with the mobility thing. RGIII relied a ton on the zone read (which I believe will be figured out this offseason). He had a serious injury in his rookie year (plus injuries in college). I'd definitely rather have Luck because I'm pretty sure he's going to be great for 12-15 years while I think RGIII will break down (or be completely ineffective) if he doesn't cut down on the zone read stuff and actually start relying on his arm.

[Saints-Tigers]

Lets discuss the game you Rudy Cool, Manti Te'o loving *****!!

(rudy cool is the best *** euphimism ever btw)

[descendency]

I'm so glad there are two weeks between the Championship games and the Super Bowl.

[brat316]

Read option wildcat package needs to be done.

[WCH]

Originally Posted by bhaarat316

Read option wildcat package needs to be done.

I'm pretty sure that Rich Rodriguez has done this.

[WCH]

Double post.