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Old 02-04-2013, 01:37 PM    (permalink
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Man I hope Ogletree shows up at the combine weighing over 240# and just blazes his 40.

Like Lawrence Timmons had to when he was drafted out of FSU, he's going to need to get stronger and bigger. None of these other guys has his upside.
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It isn't outrageous at all to think that this Te'o incident will really impact him at the next level. I have a hard time believing people will look to him as a leader.
You could have said much the same about Ray Lewis before he reinvented/refocused himself following that murder trial.

I wouldn't be surprised if Teo uses this as the catalyst to refocus and work harder on and off the field.

That said, I am sure each NFL team has a very good idea of where they rank Teo as a prospect.
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#1 ILB in the draft? Ogletree, by a lot.

His range and coverage ability in the modern NFL give him a clear lean over the rest of the guys. I wouldn't take Minter or Te'o in the first because they're limited players, but I can keep Ogletree on the field all game long.
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#1 ILB in the draft? Ogletree, by a lot.

His range and coverage ability in the modern NFL give him a clear lean over the rest of the guys. I wouldn't take Minter or Te'o in the first because they're limited players, but I can keep Ogletree on the field all game long.
Except on run downs???

Ogletree has a lot of potential but there are a lot of ifs with his game. If he get's stronger, if he learns how to shed blocks etc.

I actually like his fit as the weakside ILB in a 34. If he has a guy who doesn't mind banging with OGs in the run game then Ogletree can be the clean up guy. But he needs to be covered up in the run game because he will get demolished by interior linemen and full backs and bigger runnin backs will just run over him
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You could have said much the same about Ray Lewis before he reinvented/refocused himself following that murder trial.I wouldn't be surprised if Teo uses this as the catalyst to refocus and work harder on and off the field.

That said, I am sure each NFL team has a very good idea of where they rank Teo as a prospect.
That really doesn't make any sense. That incident occurred when he was a pro, not a collegiate player entering the NFL. He wasn't just thought of as a leader, he proved he was a leader on the NFL level.
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Not impressed with this group of MLB's for a 4-3D, and it's just ok for the 3-4D schemes. Major flaws with all these top prospects. Not to say none will be good NFL players, but they appear to be limited in their ceilings.
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I think Te'o is an ideal 4-3 Mike but could easily play ILB in a 3-4. A tampa two 4-3 that requires him to drop into coverage could present problems.

I think Ogletree's ideal spot is as a 4-3 weakside linebacker, where he could freelance and use his speed and athleticism to make plays on the edge. He would also fit nicely into a 3-4 ILB role. Not sure if he's physical enough to be a 4-3 MLB, but could work as a 3-down tampa two MLB provided his DTs are good.

I think Minter might be the most flexible linebacker in that he could feasibly fit into any LB role with the exception of 3-4 OLB.

Arthur Brown (see Ogletree). But he needs 10 lbs.
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I think Te'o is an ideal 4-3 Mike but could easily play ILB in a 3-4. A tampa two 4-3 that requires him to drop into coverage could present problems.

I think Ogletree's ideal spot is as a 4-3 weakside linebacker, where he could freelance and use his speed and athleticism to make plays on the edge. He would also fit nicely into a 3-4 ILB role. Not sure if he's physical enough to be a 4-3 MLB, but could work as a 3-down tampa two MLB provided his DTs are good.

I think Minter might be the most flexible linebacker in that he could feasibly fit into any LB role with the exception of 3-4 OLB.

Arthur Brown (see Ogletree). But he needs 10 lbs.
This is what I think as well.
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I just have this feeling Te'o is going to run slow at the combine.
IMO he's a more technique sound and slightly more instinctive Rey Maualuga.

His best fit I still believe is 34 ILB.
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