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Old 02-08-2013, 02:54 PM    (permalink
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I think he gets to the line way too much than his skill would dictate. He's not a very good shooter this year, and he turns the ball over four times a game. Him leading the NBA in ftas is what makes him efficient, not like lebron and Durant who would be efficient regardless of how many fta they had.
That doesn't matter. Getting to the free throw line is a goddamn skill.
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Why on earth does it matter which part of his game makes him efficient? Same point as earlier. You cant just write off part of someone's skillset because you feel like it, and try to make a point from there. Getting to the line has/is/and always will be part of his game. He got there 6 times a night last year as the third option. It's not going to change.

Also, getting to the line is a huge part of Durant's game. Over 9 times a night, and shoots 90%. He'd certainly still be good if he only got there 4 times per game, but he wouldnt be the 2nd best player in the league.
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That doesn't matter. Getting to the free throw line is a goddamn skill.
Meh. It's still all based on the obviously subjective eyes of the referees. Some guys get to the line way more than they should, some not enough. Harden just happens to he one of the guys that benefits from the refs.

Everyone else thats a top 15 player has more than one elite skill. Harden is elite at getting the refs to call fouls during the regular season.
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This Dwightmare Saga is fun to watch when you're on the other side of the coin.

But it completely SUCKS when he's on the team you cheer for.
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I'm not writing him off or saying hes a bad player. Quit making arguments that aren't being discussed. I just don't think he's as good as you all think he is. He shoots himself out of games and turns into a black hole randomly. It will be interesting to see him perform if the rockets sneak into the playoffs this year.
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Meh. It's still all based on the obviously subjective eyes of the referees. Some guys get to the line way more than they should, some not enough. Harden just happens to he one of the guys that benefits from the refs.

Everyone else thats a top 15 player has more than one elite skill. Harden is elite at getting the refs to call fouls during the regular season.
He's elite at getting to the basket, he has an elite first step with the ball, he's an elite pick and roll offensive player, he's elite at drawing contact, and he's elite in transition.

His jumper has been spotty and inconsistent this year, hes turns it over way too much, and sometimes he doesn't even try on defense, but he's definitely elite at more than 1 thing.
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OJ Mayo is better right...right ?
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Hey, hey. Let's leave Mayo out of this.
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Cuban shouldn't be stupid and overpay Mayo in the offseason.
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as long as we're bringing up past arguments and stuff...

Brook Lopez. doesn't deserve the max. AMIRITE

I'm sorry, it's all I got. And I don't feel like delving into some of these very silly arguments
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To be fair, it seems like brook's balls finally dropped this season.
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To be fair, it seems like brook's balls finally dropped this season.
I read that he put on some ridiculous amount of muscle, like 10+ lbs of it. He had mono and the injury last year. He added the rip move to his repertoire and it's so amazing to see. The Nets have become Brook's team, and it's awesome
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as long as we're bringing up past arguments and stuff...

Brook Lopez. doesn't deserve the max. AMIRITE

I'm sorry, it's all I got. And I don't feel like delving into some of these very silly arguments
nobody deserves max money in brody's eyes
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Harden did.
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And he's proving it this year. What people always fail to understand about the max contract is that it's a market value. When teams around the league are handing out max deals to Roy Hibbert and Rudy Cool, getting a guy like Harden for the same deal is a big advantage. You don't just arbitrarily decide whether or not "he's a max player." It's about the market. If you're going to dick around and offer guys like Harden 11 mill a year you're not going to get a guy like him, you're going to have a team full of solid but unspectacular players that isn't going to do ****.
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Brook Lopez. doesn't deserve the max. AMIRITE

I'm sorry, it's all I got. And I don't feel like delving into some of these very silly arguments
how you feels about sending humphries to cha for ben gordon?
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Boozer is the definition of meh, but Bargs is horrific.
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The Bulls suck anyway.
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