Offseason Discussion Thread

[Monomach]

Of course Chicago had fewer people attend their games. We have the lowest capacity in the league. Screw you, Jacksonville. We could sell 75k tickets each weekend if we had the seats. :/

[killxswitch]

Originally Posted by Monomach

Of course Chicago had fewer people attend their games. We have the lowest capacity in the league. Screw you, Jacksonville. We could sell 75k tickets each weekend if we had the seats. :/

Maybe Oakland can tear down Mt. Davis and give it to you guys.

[jrdrylie]

If we are using just fan support to justify which team to move to LA or London, there are two other teams in Florida who should be moving before the Jaguars.

[fenikz]

Originally Posted by Cigaro

Can we please stop spreading this Jacksonville attendance myth?

AZ has sold out every game ever at UoP stadium so I don't believe anything else on that poster

plus they didn't have 9 home games lol

[Raiderz4Life]

AD is not ****** human, playing with a sports hernia??

[Cigaro]

Originally Posted by fenikz

AZ has sold out every game ever at UoP stadium so I don't believe anything else on that poster

I'm not sure if you're thinking this out. Just because you sold out all of your games doesn't mean you automatically have higher attendance. If you're unaware, the graphic indicates eleven stadiums are smaller than the Jags', and guess who one of them belongs to...

[jrdrylie]

Here is a better, non-biased graphic. You can see that Jacksonville is actually 20th in total attendence. Like Monomach said, that isn't a great way to look at it because teams like Chicago could fill a bigger stadium if they had one (Also I was at the game when Chicago visited Jacksonville and the stadium was at least 40% Chicago fans). A better way to look at it is by percentage filled. Jacksonville is 17th (Arizona is 19th).

The real embarrassments? Start with Miami. They have 4.2 million more people in the Miami area than the Jacksonville area. They are also a more established team with a better history. Yet they only seel out 76.3%.

How about Washington? You just drafted the Heisman trophy winner. Your future looks bright. Yes, your stadium is among the biggest in the NFL, but DC is the 7th most populous metropolitan area.

Then there is Oakland. They have the smallest stadium in the country. The San Fran/Oakland area is the 11th largest in the country, yet they are 29th in attendence.

[Monomach]

Originally Posted by killxswitch

Maybe Oakland can tear down Mt. Davis and give it to you guys.

That's a poophole. :P

But even if you footed the bill for a bigger state-of-the-art stadium, you couldn't get the Bears to move into it. The Bears play where they do because that's where Chicago's powers-that-be decided they wanted them to be. The Bears have the cheapest lease in the NFL on some of the most expensive land in the world.

There was a proposal to build a modern retractable dome capable of hosting Super Bowls in a different part of the city with ample interstate access and parking out the wazoo...at no cost to the Bears. The price tag was less than that of renovating Soldier Field because there was no existing antique crap to work around. It was killed by the Mayor working out the ultimate sweetheart deal with the Bears. He did it because he planned out every inch of the lakefront himself as his legacy and he wanted the Bears right where they are.

What could have been:

[Bob Sanders Dreadlock]

Originally Posted by jrdrylie

Here is a better, non-biased graphic. You can see that Jacksonville is actually 20th in total attendence. Like Monomach said, that isn't a great way to look at it because teams like Chicago could fill a bigger stadium if they had one (Also I was at the game when Chicago visited Jacksonville and the stadium was at least 40% Chicago fans). A better way to look at it is by percentage filled. Jacksonville is 17th (Arizona is 19th).

The real embarrassments? Start with Miami. They have 4.2 million more people in the Miami area than the Jacksonville area. They are also a more established team with a better history. Yet they only seel out 76.3%.

How about Washington? You just drafted the Heisman trophy winner. Your future looks bright. Yes, your stadium is among the biggest in the NFL, but DC is the 7th most populous metropolitan area.

Then there is Oakland. They have the smallest stadium in the country. The San Fran/Oakland area is the 11th largest in the country, yet they are 29th in attendence.

I wonder what Indianapolis was at before this year. I know a lot of season ticket holders bounced but 19th seems so low

[fenikz]

103.5% doubt it was much higher

[Monomach]

The Ravens will be erecting a statue that celebrates murder.

I think this would be a good design:

[killxswitch]

Originally Posted by Monomach

The Ravens will be erecting a statue that celebrates murder.

I think this would be a good design:

But he should be wearing a white suit, with a deer antler I the other hand. Yes, I did read the PFT comments.

[dunagan15]

Originally Posted by Cigaro

Can we please stop spreading this Jacksonville attendance myth?

Lawyered yall.

[Monomach]

LOL. I got neg repped for the picture of Ray Ray with a knife.

APS, If you don't want your team's player to get made fun of for that time he went and murdered people, maybe you should go back to your precious Flacco-free Jaguars. Can't think of any worthless pieces of human trash there. ;)

Here's some more for you:

[Bucs_Rule]

average ticket price X attendance
- is so much more useful.

[P-L]

Originally Posted by jrdrylie

The real embarrassments? Start with Miami. They have 4.2 million more people in the Miami area than the Jacksonville area. They are also a more established team with a better history. Yet they only seel out 76.3%.

The problem with Miami sports teams is that a large percentage of the South Florida population is not originally from South Florida. The city of Miami itself actually has a lot less people than Jacksonville. The majority of people in Broward and Palm Beach counties are not from Florida. I live in Broward and know almost as many Giants fans as I do Dolphins fans.

[jrdrylie]

The competition committee has considered making the NFL field wider (35 feet to be exacte) like the CFL field to reduce injuries. I'm not even sure this would be possible because I doubt all the NFL stadiums could handle adding 18.5 feet on both sidelines without eliminating seats. And I know the owners would not be okay with giving up millions of dollars of revenue (plus a few more million in construction).

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...litz-1048.html

[WCH]

Originally Posted by jrdrylie

The competition committee has considered making the NFL field wider (35 feet to be exacte) like the CFL field to reduce injuries. I'm not even sure this would be possible because I doubt all the NFL stadiums could handle adding 18.5 feet on both sidelines without eliminating seats. And I know the owners would not be okay with giving up millions of dollars of revenue (plus a few more million in construction).

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/...litz-1048.html

That will never happen, for the reasons you mentioned.

Also, it's seldom a good idea for an overwhelming industry leader to try to be more like the other guys. If Goodell seriously wants to mimic the CFL or AFL, then he's ********.

[Malaka]

Originally Posted by WCH

That will never happen, for the reasons you mentioned.

Also, it's seldom a good idea for an overwhelming industry leader to try to be more like the other guys. If Goodell seriously wants to mimic the CFL or AFL, then he's ********.

I don't necessarily think he's trying to "copy" them. I actually don't think it's a terrible move if safety is the goal... we could expect a hell of a lot more points though.

Think of Rugby. I am not quite sure what the dimensions are for an official rugby pitch, but there are a lot less serious injuries in that game because the field is so spread out by the rules and tactics of the game. With so much open space defender need to slow down instead of exploding head on into a ball carrier. This would reinforce proper tackling as well, as you can't just throw a shoulder into a guy with that much space.

Will it happen? Probably not. Should it happen? That's another debate. I actually think it could legitemately lessen serious injuries in the NFL. I also think it could change the make-up of the game as we would see more points and spread offenses in the league.

[Lil Quip]

With a quick bit of research:

These are teams with the closes proximity to each other.

Jets/Giants: N/A

49ers(Candlestick)/Oakland ; 28 miles

Baltimore Ravens/Washington Redskins 32 miles

Most people don't realize that M&T is really close to Fedex and that Fedex is most definitely on the Baltimore side of DC, which aren't far apart to begin with.

Plus the Maryland side skews Baltimore to a large margin very very quickly.

I will guarantee it is easier to get to Fedex for gameday from Baltimore than it would be from the NoVa, where a lionshare of fans are from.

[WCH]

I wouldn't want him on my team, but I'm kind of rooting for Jamarcus Russell. I guess I'm a sucker for a good redemption story.

[Naga114]

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[Ness]

This one was funny.

[b316]

[b316]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/89...led-2949m-2011

The man is not being payed enough.

32 teams and only makes 29 million...someone isn't paying him, my guess is Mike Brown and I'm not sure who else.