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Old 02-13-2013, 09:21 PM    (permalink
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God dammit Knicks. Can we make a ******* layup?
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Seeing Rudy *** and Melo both play like **** is so tremendously heartwarming.
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Melo has been horrific tonight. Should've sent em to H town early.
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oh, so when Melo doesn't carry the Knicks offensively, they lose? LOOK HOW SHOCKED I AM.

Also, nets beat the Nuggets. i love it when Joe Johnson does Joe Johnson things again
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Rudy *** has been terrible on O but he has played great D all game. Love the team with him on it.
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oh, so when Melo doesn't carry the Knicks offensively, they lose? LOOK HOW SHOCKED I AM.

Also, nets beat the Nuggets. i love it when Joe Johnson does Joe Johnson things again
Ummm, you mean when Melo is offensively bad on offense he costs his team the game? Yeah, that's the same thing.
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Ummm, you mean when Melo is offensively bad on offense he costs his team the game? Yeah, that's the same thing.
5-2 since we've acquired him, including two game winners.
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WHERE WAS SUPER STAR OFFENSIVE TALENT TYSON CHANDLER?

WHY DIDN'T HE SAVE THE KNICKS AGAINST THE MIGHTY RAPTORS?

when Melo's doesn't score, the Knicks are toasty toast.
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WHERE WAS SUPER STAR OFFENSIVE TALENT TYSON CHANDLER?

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when Melo's doesn't score, the Knicks are toasty toast.
I agree with you on Melo as a player. You're missing Brody's point for this particular game though. Melo definitely lost the game for the Knicks due to the number of shots he took. Even if they had the ability, nobody else could've carried the offense because they wouldn't get enough looks.

Now, do I care that Melo took 25. No, not really.
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when Melo's doesn't score, the Knicks are toasty toast.
No, they aren't. When he plays like utter garbage and hurts them on offense by taking 24 shots, they lose. This is honestly the dumbest ******* way to look at your argument.
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No, they aren't. When he plays like utter garbage and hurts them on offense by taking 24 shots, they lose. This is honestly the dumbest ******* way to look at your argument.
I already took care of it, brody. Settle down.
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Nobody said Rudy Cool wouldn't make the Raptors better (well maybe Brody I dunno). When you don't consider his contract he's definitely a talented guy (although inefficient). The problem is that he makes them an average to above average team at best with little room for growth due to their contract situation. You can say that big name FAs were never going to Toronto, but cap flexibility gives a great deal of roster flexibility outside of simply signing FAs
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ok, but melo's been taking that many shots all year. When he's making them and putting up 30 and carrying the knicks, it's all peachy (except for Brody's knock on his effeciency, which is quite valid, but still)

You can have a guy go 5-24 and still win if the other guys step up.

Also, melo shoots that much because no one else can/will score. when you're 2nd best scorer is JR "chucker" Smith off the bench, you've got problems
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Yeah, Cool clearly makes them better, but the trade still wasn't worse sacrificing the cap room. Even if you can't get a huge free agent, being able to take on short term terrible contracts can allow you to clean up on 1st round picks and you can try and get a true #1 stud (Cool is maybe a #3 on a title contender - I say maybe not due to talent but because he'd need to shoot a helluva lot less/stop taking horrific shots) through the draft.
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I don't think he makes them better.
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ok, but melo's been taking that many shots all year. When he's making them and putting up 30 and carrying the knicks, it's all peachy (except for Brody's knock on his effeciency, which is quite valid, but still)

You can have a guy go 5-24 and still win if the other guys step up.

Also, melo shoots that much because no one else can/will score. when you're 2nd best scorer is JR "chucker" Smith off the bench, you've got problems
I agree with this. No problem with Melo taking the shots. He's not really inefficient in general though....he's fine. His TS% isn't bad at all. He's not an efficiency beast, but he also has to be "the guy" anytime he's on the floor.
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Yeah, Cool clearly makes them better, but the trade still wasn't worse sacrificing the cap room. Even if you can't get a huge free agent, being able to take on short term terrible contracts can allow you to clean up on 1st round picks and you can try and get a true #1 stud (Cool is maybe a #3 on a title contender - I say maybe not due to talent but because he'd need to shoot a helluva lot less/stop taking horrific shots) through the draft.
Exactly, cap flexibility allows you to do so many things and to take advantage of teams in difficult cap situations. Top that with the fact that it will become even more important as the new CBA is implemented.
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I don't think he makes them better.
This will be interesting because I know you and I like us some Jose Calderon.....who is better, Calderon or Cool?
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