Mayock's Positional rankings and Gil Brandt's top 100 just came out

[Iamcanadian]

No doubt they are just their preliminary rankings which will be completely updated after the combine.


http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap10...2013-nfl-draft

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...best-prospects

[bornnraisedwhodat]

Im not the type of guy to say "so and so is clueless!!" and stuff like that. These guys have decades of experience.

But Gil Brant seems to not even really be evaluating anymore. He said Sheldon Richardson "needs to work harder" on the field. WTH? Richardson has one of the highest motors of any DT I've seen in a long time. The guy is litereally everywhere on the field!

Either Gil got his evals mixed up with another player, or he didnt even bother to watch even a snippet of Richardson.

[Leon Sandcastle]

Jeff Locke in the Top 100.

[Byrd430]

Richardson's motor is a little inconsistent from game-to-game, so I happen to agree with Gil's evaluation there. That being said, he came on much stronger down the stretch, which leads me to believe that he'll be fine.

I like Gil's rankings more than Mayock's.

[descendency]

Zeke Motta over Phillip Thomas... lol ND homer.

[Babylon]

Originally Posted by bornnraisedwhodat

Im not the type of guy to say "so and so is clueless!!" and stuff like that. These guys have decades of experience.

But Gil Brant seems to not even really be evaluating anymore. He said Sheldon Richardson "needs to work harder" on the field. WTH? Richardson has one of the highest motors of any DT I've seen in a long time. The guy is litereally everywhere on the field!

Either Gil got his evals mixed up with another player, or he didnt even bother to watch even a snippet of Richardson.

I agree with your take on Richardson. Then Brandt says Werner is a non stop guy that doesn't take any plays off. The only question about Werner is that he takes plays off.

The mentioning of Jared Allen as a comparison is fine but to intimate that if Allen were in this draft he'd go in the top 5 i think is a mistake. You get drafted where you should get drafted for the most part. Using a comparison to someone who turned out to be a star probably gets a lot GMs fired.

[Iamcanadian]

Originally Posted by Byrd430

Richardson's motor is a little inconsistent from game-to-game, so I happen to agree with Gil's evaluation there. That being said, he came on much stronger down the stretch, which leads me to believe that he'll be fine.

I like Gil's rankings more than Mayock's.

I tend to think that Brandt relies a lot more on his contacts within the scouting community than Mayock does, Brandt is pretty old and I doubt he studies a whole lot of film the way Mayock does, but his contacts are top notch and his list cannot be ignored.

[JHL6719]

Reckon why Tank Carradine had twice as many tackles as Werner did if the German's motor is supposed to be so outstanding? Despite Carradine not even being a starter until Jenkins was lost for the season, and Carradine's own season ending early due injury.

[Iamcanadian]

Originally Posted by JHL6719

Reckon why Tank Carradine had twice as many tackles as Werner did if the German's motor is supposed to be so outstanding? Despite Carradine not even being a starter until Jenkins was lost for the season, and Carradine's own season ending early due injury.

Yeah but Werner had 13 sacks and has only played football for a few years with his best years still to come. His ceiling is very high. Carradine has round 1 talent as well but his injury will likely drop him to round 2.
For a guy who has only played football for a few years, Werner jumps out off the screen when you watch him play although he isn't a speed merchant.

[wicket]

Originally Posted by descendency

Zeke Motta over Phillip Thomas... lol ND homer.

he is a BC guy. that doesnt mean i dont think its weird