NBA Discussion Thread - Page 3254

Brodeur · 02-23-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

Does nothing to prove your stupid comments.

Doesn't disprove it, either. But you constantly bring it up just because Kobe is playing better than he has in a long time, and Pau is having his worst year in a long time while Dwight is still recovering from his back injury.

SickwithIt1010 · 02-23-2013, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

Doesn't disprove it, either. But you constantly bring it up just because Kobe is playing better than he has in a long time, and Pau is having his worst year in a long time while Dwight is still recovering from his back injury.

Pau has been on the decline for the past couple seasons, people that don't even watch basketball could see that ****, so that is out the window. Dwight on top of having a bad back is a *****, and the lakers have won and lost this season mainly on what Kobe does....so you're comment is crap.

Brodeur · 02-23-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SickwithIt1010

Pau has been on the decline for the past couple seasons, people that don't even watch basketball could see that ****, so that is out the window. Dwight on top of having a bad back is a *****, and the lakers have won and lost this season mainly on what Kobe does....so you're comment is crap.

You know who else has been on the decline before this season? Kobe!

D-Unit · 02-23-2013, 02:51 PM

You know who's not in decline?

NIKOLA VUCEVIC!!!!

BuckeyeDan17 · 02-23-2013, 03:45 PM

I will say Vucevic looks like a gem. Can't wait to watch him face rape tyler zeller tonight :(

scottyboy · 02-23-2013, 03:47 PM

know who's better than all those guys? Bropez.

booooosh.

comahan · 02-23-2013, 04:49 PM

All-time SF rankings:

Honorable Mention:

Chris Mullin

0 Top Five MVP Finishes
4x All NBA, 5x Allstar
Career: 18.2 PPG, 4.1 RPG, 3.5 APG, 1.6 SPG, .509 FG, .384 3P, .865 FT (986 Games)
Playoffs: 13.8 PPG, 3.3 RPG, 2.1 APG, 1.0 SPG, .495 FG, .409 3P, .859 FT (71 Games)

Dave DeBusschere

0 Top Five MVP Finishes
2x NBA Champion, 1x All NBA, 6x All Defense, 8x Allstar
Career: 16.1 PPG, 11.0 RPG, 2.9 APG, .432 FG, .699 FT (875 Games)
Playoffs: 16.0 PPG, 12.0 RPG, 2.6 APG, .416 FG, .698 FT (96 Games)

Alex English

0 Top Five MVP Finishes
3x All NBA, 8x Allstar, 1x Scoring Leader
Career: 21.5 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 3.6 APG, .507 FG, .832 FT (1193 Games)
Playoffs: 24.4 PPG, 5.5 RPG, 4.3 APG, .503 FG, .862 FT (68 Games)

Carmelo Anthony

0 Top Five MVP Finishes
5x All NBA, 6x Allstar
Career: 24.9 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 3.1 APG, 1.1 SPG, .456 FG, .333 3P, .806 FT (691 Games)
Playoffs: 24.9 PPG, 7.4 RPG, 3.0 APG, 1.3 SPG, .419 FG, .327 3P, .815 FT (54 Games)

Bernard King

1 Top Five MVP Finish
4x All NBA, 4x Allstar, 1x Scoring Champion
Career: 22.5 PPG, 5.8 RPG, 3.3 APG, 1.0 SPG, .518 FG, .730 FT (874 Games)
Playoffs: 24.5 PPG, 4.3 RPG, 2.3 APG, 0.9 SPG, .559 FG, .729 FT (28 Games)

Adrian Dantley

0 Top Five MVP Finishes
2x All NBA, 6x Allstar, 2x Scoring Leader
Career: 24.3 PPG, 5.7 RPG, 3.0 APG, 1.0 SPG, .540 FG, .818 FT (955 Games)
Playoffs: 21.3 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 2.3 APG, 0.9 SPG, .525 FG, .796 FT (73 Games)

Grant Hill

1 Top Five MVP Finish
5x All NBA, 7x Allstar
Career: 16.9 PPG, 6.1 RPG, 4.2 APG, 1.2 SPG, .484 FG, .314 3P, .769 FT (1015 Games)
Playoffs: 13.7 PPG, 6.2 RPG, 3.6 APG, 0.9 SPG, .469 FG, .238 3P, .781 FT (38 Games)

Billy Cunningham

3 Top Five MVP Finishes
1x NBA Champion, 1x ABA MVP, 4x All NBA, 1x All ABA, 5x Allstar
Career: 21.2 PPG, 10.4 RPG, 4.3 APG, .452 FG, .730 FT (770 Games)
Playoffs: 19.6 PPG, 9.5 RPG, 3.6 APG, .440 FG, .688 FT (54 Games)

James Worthy

0 Top Five MVP Finishes
3x NBA Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 2x All NBA, 7x Allstar
Career: 17.6 PPG, 5.1 RPG, 3.0 APG, 1.1 SPG, 0.7 BPG, .521 FG, .241 3P, .769 FT (926 Games)
Playoffs: 21.1 PPG, 5.2 RPG, 3.2 APG, 1.2 SPG, 0.7 BPG, .544 FG, .209 3P, .727 FT (143 Games)

#10

Paul Pierce

0 Top Five MVP Finishes
1x NBA Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 4x All NBA, 10x Allstar
Career: 21.8 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 3.9 APG, 1.5 SPG, .446 FG, .369 3P, .807 FT (1080 Games)
Playoffs: 21.0 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 3.9 APG, 1.3 SPG, .422 FG, .344 eP, .832 FT (130 Games)

#9

Dominique Wilkins

3 Top Five MVP Finishes
7x All NBA, 9x Allstar, 1x Scoring Leader
Career: 24.8 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 2.5 APG, 1.3 SPG, .461 FG, .319 3P, .811 FT (1074 Games)
Playoffs: 25.4 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 2.6 APG< 1.3 SPG, .429 FG, .281 3P, .824 FT (56 Games)

#8

Kevin Durant

3 Top Five MVP Finishes
3x All NBA, 4x Allstar, 3x Scoring Leader
Career: 26.6 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 3.0 APG, 1.3 SPG, 1.0 BPG, .474 FG, .372 3P, .883 FT (435 Games)
Playoffs: 28.1 PPG, 7.7 RPG, 3.2 APG, 1.1 SPG, 1.2 BPG, .465 FG, .346 3P, .854 FT (43 Games)

#7

Rick Barry

3 Top Five MVP Finishes
1x NBA Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 6x All NBA, 4x All ABA, 12x Allstar, 1x Scoring Leader
Career: 24.8 PPG, 6.7 RPG, 4.9 APG, .456 FT, .893 FT (1020 Games)
Playoffs: 27.3 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 4.3 APG, .448 FG, .870 FT (105 Games)

#6

Elgin Baylor

7 Top Five MVP Finishes
10x All NBA, 11x Allstar
Career: 27.4 PPG, 13.5 RPG, 4.3 APG, .431 FG, .780 FT (846 Games)
Playoffs: 27.0 PPG, 12.9 RPG, 4.0 APG, .439 FG, .769 FT (134 Games)

#5

Scottie Pippen

2 Top Five MVP Finishes
6x NBA Champion, 7x All NBA, 10x All Defense, 7x Allstar
Career: 16.1 PPG, 6.4 RPG, 5.2 APG, 2.0 SPG, .473 FG, .326 3P, .704 FT (1178 Games)
Playoffs: 17.5 PPG, 7.6 RPG, 5.0 APG, 1.9 SPG, .444 FG, .303 3P, .724 FT (208 Games)

#4

John Havlicek

2 Top Five MVP Finishes
8x NBA Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 11x All NBA, 8x All Defense, 13x Allstar
Career: 20.8 PPG, 6.3 RPG, 4.8 APG, .439 FG, .815 FT (1270 Games)
Playoffs: 22.0 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 4.8 APG, .436 FG, .836 FT (172 Games)

#3

Julius Erving

8 Top Five MVP Finishes
1x NBA Champion, 2x ABA Champion, 1x NBA MVP, 3x ABA MVP, 7x All NBA, 5x All ABA, 16x Allstar
Career: 24.2 PPG, 8.5 RPG, 4.2 APG, 2.0 SPG, 1.7 BPG, .506 FG, .298 3P, .777 FT (1243 Games)
Playoffs: 24.2 PPG, 8.5 RPG, 4.4 APG, 1.7 SPG, 1.7 BPG, .496 FG, .224 3P, .784 FT (189 Games)

#2

Larry Bird

9 Top Five MVP Finishes
3x NBA Champion, 2x Finals MVP, 3x NBA MVP, 10x All NBA, 3x All Defense, 12x Allstar
Career: 24.3 PPG, 10.0 RPG, 6.3 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.8 BPG, .496 FG, .376 3P, .886 FT (897 Games)
Playoffs: 23.8 PPG, 10.3 RPG, 6.5 APG, 1.8 SPG, 0.9 BPG, .472 FG, .321 3P, .890 FT (164 Games)

#1

LeBron James

7 Top Five MVP Finishes
1x NBA Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 3x NBA MVP, 8x All NBA, 4x All Defense, 9x Allstar, 1x Scoring Leader
Career: 27.6 PPG, 7.2 RPG, 6.9 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.8 BPG, .489 FG, .336 3P, .747 FT (741 Games)
Playoffs: 28.5 PPG, 8.7 RPG, 6.7 APG, 1.7 SPG, 0.9 BPG, .469 FG, .312 3P, .745 FT (115 Games)

thenewfeature06 · 02-23-2013, 06:09 PM

Worthy as honorable mention is crazy but you can make a case for the guys ahead, 5 points higher in playoffs which is cool to see.

comahan · 02-23-2013, 06:31 PM

Yea, i went back and forth on he and Pierce for a while (HM's are in order, so Worthy was 11th), still dont know if I like my decision.

Also went back and forth on Bird/LeBron. LeBron doesnt have Bird's accomplishments yet, but I think hes a better player (barely).

Raiderz4Life · 02-23-2013, 08:35 PM

I always thought Bird was a 4. Shouldn't we also let KD play a little more before he gets put in all-time lists? I know he's gonna be there at the end though so it's not like a huge deal.

Ravens1991 · 02-23-2013, 08:36 PM

Wiz with the win!!!!!! It sucks we are losing lottery balls but it is cool to see a winning tean

Brodeur · 02-23-2013, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderz4Life

I always thought Bird was a 4. Shouldn't we also let KD play a little more before he gets put in all-time lists? I know he's gonna be there at the end though so it's not like a huge deal.

McHale was the 4 on the Celts.

Zycho32 · 02-23-2013, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Raiderz4Life

I always thought Bird was a 4. Shouldn't we also let KD play a little more before he gets put in all-time lists? I know he's gonna be there at the end though so it's not like a huge deal.

Bird played 3 in an era where he could get away with it. Basically the players covering him usually fell into three categories; One, they were all-O/no-D forwards. Two, they were Power Forwards who for the most part didn't have the athleticism to handle Bird. And Three; fringe-level swingmen who rotated into the 3 position.

There were some exceptions at the time. Robert Reid, Paul Pressley, Michael Cooper. But the truly explosive defenders like Scottie Pippen and Dennis Rodman, and all those that came after them? Didn't show up until Bird's body broke down.

If he played nowadays he'd be a 4, no question.

SeanTaylorRIP · 02-23-2013, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravens1991

Wiz with the win!!!!!! It sucks we are losing lottery balls but it is cool to see a winning tean

That's fine I'll take Otto Porter or GRIII over Nerlens or Zeller any day, honestly I don't have Shabazz that much higher any longer than Porter on my Wizards big board, Shabazz definitely would be that go to scorer the Wizards need but he's too one dimensional for me, Porter would be a perfect complement to the smallish backcourt of Wall and Beal, and is a guy who can be a 13-15 ppg scorer and be a good defender and team player.

soybean · 02-23-2013, 11:17 PM

obviously an outlier but 2nd round rookie Bernard James on Dallas had 7 blocks last game... in 15 minutes.

Brodeur · 02-23-2013, 11:40 PM

George Karl confirmed for incredibly stupid human being.

bantx · 02-24-2013, 12:58 AM

the mav's beards are looking mean, part of me wants them to stay under .500 because i still want a pic of all of them walking with their beards in one picture so i can sig it.

diabsoule · 02-24-2013, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

That's fine I'll take Otto Porter or GRIII over Nerlens or Zeller any day, honestly I don't have Shabazz that much higher any longer than Porter on my Wizards big board, Shabazz definitely would be that go to scorer the Wizards need but he's too one dimensional for me, Porter would be a perfect complement to the smallish backcourt of Wall and Beal, and is a guy who can be a 13-15 ppg scorer and be a good defender and team player.

I'll take Otto Porter every day, all day on the Hornets. He fills a massive need at SF.

zachsaints52 · 02-24-2013, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by D-Unit

You know who's not in decline?

NIKOLA VUCEVIC!!!!

You mean one of the guys we gave up to have Bynum practice once and Jason Richardsons contract who also cant play?! :/

Ravens1991 · 02-24-2013, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanTaylorRIP

That's fine I'll take Otto Porter or GRIII over Nerlens or Zeller any day, honestly I don't have Shabazz that much higher any longer than Porter on my Wizards big board, Shabazz definitely would be that go to scorer the Wizards need but he's too one dimensional for me, Porter would be a perfect complement to the smallish backcourt of Wall and Beal, and is a guy who can be a 13-15 ppg scorer and be a good defender and team player.

I agree we need to avoid Zeller at all costs. My go to guy is porter he will be perfect for us. Another guy who id like is Isaiah Austin. If we could get a mid to late first id love for us to get him. A 5 who can space the floor on offense and be an anchor on D would be great for us.