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View Poll Results: Where will Alex Smith be next season
Buffalo 5 4.63%
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:36 AM    (permalink
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Cassel and Smith trades are not the same. The Chiefs are not signing Smith to a long term contract.
The rumor is that's exactly what we're doing. Something in the 4 year $40m range.
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That's just stupid.

Just because "teams have to actually make decisions" doesn't mean that they have to accept trades that are ultimately bad for the organization.
You don't know that the trade was ultimately bad for the organization. Pick 34 and a conditional mid-rounder do not have the value that emotional Draft fans think they do.

Also, it's quite possible the Chiefs would have drafted a QB worse than Smith, had they not traded for him.
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You don't know that the trade was ultimately bad for the organization. Pick 34 and a conditional mid-rounder do not have the value that emotional Draft fans think they do.

Also, it's quite possible the Chiefs would have drafted a QB worse than Smith, had they not traded for him.
And it's quite possible they could have drafted a QB much, much better than Smith. Someone younger with a lot more upside.

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Pretty much. Alex Smith is going to be the QB here for at least 3-4 years. That means the Chiefs will be a non factor on the NFL landscape for the next 3-4 years. But that's what we've been for the last 20, so what is a few more?

You don't trade two premium picks for a QB and only rent him for two years.
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The rumor is that's exactly what we're doing. Something in the 4 year $40m range.
Thank you for taking Dorsey before the Packers decided to make him Ted Thompson's successor.
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Thank you for taking Dorsey before the Packers decided to make him Ted Thompson's successor.
He would have been fine there in GB. They clearly have a QB for the next 10+ years, so he likely wouldn't have made such a dumbshit trade like this.
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Maybe the chiefs surprise everyone and still take a QB first overall, and Alex Smith is just a drunken bet that they lost?
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Maybe the chiefs surprise everyone and still take a QB first overall, and Alex Smith is just a drunken bet that they lost?
Would be a pretty epic troll attempt by Reid and Dorsey if they still went QB #1. It isn't going to happen, but that would be hilarious.
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You're still only harping on a single game, and that is ******* HILARIOUS to me. Congrats, he played well against one of the worst defenses to ever step on a field.. he's totally worth what we gave up for him now! Thank god all our games next year are against the Saints.
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In the end, Alex Smith will do just enough to ensure the Chiefs miss out on a franchise QB in the upcoming draft, just like Matt Cassel did in 2010. Just like Grbac did. Just like Montana and Trent Green did.

This is not a new story for Chiefs fans. This is literally the history of our franchise, so excuse us if we can't get excited about another retread mediocre QB who will be spinning his wheels.
You missed out on a chance to draft...

McNair and Kerry Collins.
Never produced like top 5 pick Franchise QB but were both in a Super Bowl cause the NFL is a team game.

Tony Banks
Jim Druckenmiller

Needed to go 3-13 not 13-3 to have a shot at Manning or Leaf.

Tim Couch, Donovan McNabb, Akili Smith, Daunte Culpepper, Cade McNown

Chad Pennington

Michael Vick

David Carr, Joey Harrington

Carson Palmer, Byron Leftwich, let Kyle Boller slide by when trading a pick

Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, Ben Roethlisberger

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Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler

JaMarcus Russell and Quinn 1 pick before Bowe, darn the luck

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Matthew Stafford

Sam Bradford

Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert, Christian Ponder

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Doesn't seem like not sucking enough has been the biggest problem the past 20 years. Unless that sucking is concentrated to one of the few fortunate years to have a top pick.
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You're still only harping on a single game, and that is ******* HILARIOUS to me. Congrats, he played well against one of the worst defenses to ever step on a field.. he's totally worth what we gave up for him now! Thank god all our games next year are against the Saints.
They were middle of the pack in 2011, but nice try.
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Cassel and Smith trades are not the same. The Chiefs are not signing Smith to a long term contract.
Yeah, the Chiefs were getting an emerging 26 year old QB that just won 11 games and threw for 3700 yards behind a bad line AND a high end OLB for just one pick....
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4 years 40 million is hilariously bad.

I'm sorry Chief fans.
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4 years 40 million is hilariously bad.

I'm sorry Chief fans.
That much is just a rumor at this point, but all these Chiefs rumors lately have come true, so **** me right?
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4 years 40 million is hilariously bad.

I'm sorry Chief fans.
Considering the deal Sanchez got last season...not really.
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Considering the deal Sanchez got last season...not really.
Um...that was a terrible deal too....

So I don't really get your point.
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10 mill a year for a starting QB is cheap...

Also, it could be a contract that the Chiefs could get out of easily.
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See, if they gave up a 3rd for Smith and gave him a cap friendly deal I wouldn't mind.

Bc then they could have drafted a qb in round 2, he would be dirt cheap for 4 years while Smith is your caretaker backup plan, and you still wouldn't have a lot of money dedicated to qb.

That wouldve been a good move. Give Smith like 3 years 20 million with a 2nd round qb making like 1 mill a year, you'd be fine.

And giving up a 3rd for Smith would have been good value.

But giving up a 2nd and a conditional pick then turning around and giving him 40 million is such a terrible move. So so bad.
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10 mill a year for a starting QB is cheap...

Also, it could be a contract that the Chiefs could get out of easily.
10 million a year for a good qb is cheap. 10 mill a year for a mediocre one is not cheap.
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The Chiefs franchise ladies and gentlemen. Irrelevant since the late 60s and for the foreseeable future!

Does any other teams fanbase want to adopt someone who is loyal to a fault? :(
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See, if they gave up a 3rd for Smith and gave him a cap friendly deal I wouldn't mind.
Fans always expect to get unrealistically favorable trades. Unfortunately for the Chiefs, they have to do business in the actual NFL.
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10 million a year for a good qb is cheap. 10 mill a year for a mediocre one is not cheap.
Name a good QB, not playing under his rookie copntract, that can be had for 10 mill a year. Again, not realistic.
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10 million a year for a good qb is cheap. 10 mill a year for a mediocre one is not cheap.
Nah, I like his rule.

Blaine Gabbert is a starting QB. 10 mil per year is cheap for a starting QB. Therefore, the Jags should sign Gabbert to 5 years / 50 mil. That's fun to think about.
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