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Old 03-06-2013, 09:36 PM    (permalink
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Or you know, maybe they'll lose to Purdue and make this all moot...
Nope....never that easy..
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This is absolutely hilarious coming from you.
My point is that if you win your conference tournament, then you receive an automatic bid into the NCAA Tournament. Therefore, you have a chance to win the tournament even though you're not from a power six conference. In college football, you have no chance to win the championship from a non-power six conference.

So, I'm taking the perspective of being able to win a championship when I say that conference doesn't matter. From other perspectives, such as money, it does matter. As an example, the power six conferences make a lot of money from their television deals.
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Anyone else getting excited for the new "Big East"?

I hope something happens with the ACC and Notre Dame joins these schools. When all around us, schools are breaking up rivalries, and joining conferences that make zero geographic sense, I love that this new conference is setting out to create new, great natural rivalries.
I'm excited about the potential to go home and home during the regular season. Obviously it'll be weaker than the old Big East, but probably better for those schools than it would have been before they broke away. Still a little concerned they'll add too many schools and curious to see who they do add. Also despite some personal ties to the school, I kind of wish we could get rid of Seton Hall since I like most of the other teams that will be in the conference.

Also, Villanova beat G'town for their third top 5 victory at home this season. Hopefully this means we can go dancing this year.
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Or you know, maybe they'll lose to Purdue and make this all moot...
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Right, but if you had to choose, most people would choose LA. El Paso is a border town in the middle of the high desert mountains.

It's a weird conservative little place with a violent 3rd world drug gang battleground on the other side of a fence.
The same thing can be said about Nebraska, Iowa, etc. The only reason why they're desirable is because they're power six conference teams. If they were mid-majors, they wouldn't be desirable. San Diego, Los Angeles, etc. are desirable even if they're not in a power six conference.
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I'm excited about the potential to go home and home during the regular season. Obviously it'll be weaker than the old Big East, but probably better for those schools than it would have been before they broke away. Still a little concerned they'll add too many schools and curious to see who they do add. Also despite some personal ties to the school, I kind of wish we could get rid of Seton Hall since I like most of the other teams that will be in the conference.

Also, Villanova beat G'town for their third top 5 victory at home this season. Hopefully this means we can go dancing this year.
If they add Xavier, Dayton, and St. Joseph's, it could easily be a 4-5 bid league year-in and year-out. The Catholic schools can really recruit. It also doesn't hurt that the talent level in the Northeast is very high.
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If they add Xavier, Dayton, and St. Joseph's, it could easily be a 4-5 bid league year-in and year-out. The Catholic schools can really recruit. It also doesn't hurt that the talent level in the Northeast is very high.
Well supposedly they're adding Xavier and Butler, so those are two strong adds. Not sure about Dayton or St. Joe's since they are okay programs and those markets will be more or less covered already. Think Creighton or St. Louis would make a lot more sense.
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You think Michigan beats Indiana?
I hope not.

Indy has responded to bad losses with great wins before, but winning at Michigan will be really tough.
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**** the Gophers. I'm done torturing myself. I hope they miss the tournament somehow because they don't deserve to be there.
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**** the Gophers. I'm done torturing myself. I hope they miss the tournament somehow because they don't deserve to be there.
I know...It's terrible. Every time I get my hopes up they lose to a team they have no business losing to, then I get ready to give up on them, then they beat Indiana, so I get my hopes up and then...this.
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**** the Gophers. I'm done torturing myself. I hope they miss the tournament somehow because they don't deserve to be there.
With a top 20 rpi? Also, be on the lookout for Nebraska in the near future. Tim Miles is an excellent coach. He's turned around every program he's been at. Very likable guy too.
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**** the Gophers. I'm done torturing myself. I hope they miss the tournament somehow because they don't deserve to be there.
Minnesota deserves to be in there....they are obviously a little inconsistent last stretch of games...but they deserve to be in there, and you guys will win at least 1st rnd game...
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They're going to make it. But going from 8th in the country to below .500 in the conference and losing to Nebraska is pathetic.

They don't deserve anything, their talent to success ratio is horrible. Once again.
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They're going to make it. But going from 8th in the country to below .500 in the conference and losing to Nebraska is pathetic.
I understand and agree....but i've watched them enough...i'll be tempted to make them sweet 16 team depending on bracket...


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Why the hell is there so many Minny fans in here... are the expectations even high for a program like that..?

no

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Actually the expectations for Minnesota basketball were as high as they've been since Tubby arrived. The Hollins back court with seniors Rodney Williams and Trevor Mbakwe set the potential for the team to be successful this year, but far too often recently the group has looked unmotivated and willing to get their asses kicked (outside the Indiana game).
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Until Rashad Vaughn goes there they will be irrelevant.. BUT I do like Tubby as the coach.
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You think a team gets to be ranked #8 in the country and the fans keep expectations low? Wut?
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At the current moment, i just feel like you still have to go with Indiana to win it all....

Or maybe Duke. Have to watch them in ACC tourney with Kelley back for a few games.
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My problem with Duke is their complete lack of depth. Their starting 5 might be the best in the country but they have almost nothing worthwhile off their bench. Their main guys are going to have to play huge minutes in the tournament.
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And Kansas?

Can you depend on Mclemore to carry them through the tourney?
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Kansas has a shot but I don't think it will be Mclemore carrying them like Kemba's run a few years ago. He's a great player but too passive at this point to carry a team on his back like that. If they make a run like that they're going to need a big run from Elijah Johnson imo.
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Kansas has a shot but I don't think it will be Mclemore carrying them like Kemba's run a few years ago. He's a great player but too passive at this point to carry a team on his back like that. If they make a run like that they're going to need a big run from Elijah Johnson imo.
And Withey dominating the glass.
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Withey will probably dominate the paint defensively for them, which will be a big factor. Not many easy buckets with him in there. If Kansas' perimeter guys get hot they could be a threat.
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