San Francisco 49ers Discussion - Page 594

Justone2 · 03-19-2013, 01:16 PM

We also have 2 7th round compensatory picks so why not just take a kicker there. It's not like there is one kicker far above the rest so i would just take one with one of those.

dan77733 · 03-19-2013, 03:58 PM

UGH. We signed K Phil Dawson to replace Akers. UGH.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...-replace-akers

farfromforgotten · 03-19-2013, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dan77733

UGH. We signed K Phil Dawson to replace Akers. UGH.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...-replace-akers

He was 29-31 last year. What's not to like?

king2am · 03-19-2013, 05:49 PM

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3(74) Bacarri Rambo – FS - Georgia
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Yes. Please. Yes.

I know he has some baggage, but I love watching this kid play and feel like he'd be a great replacement for Dashon.

49ersfan_87 · 03-19-2013, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dan77733

UGH. We signed K Phil Dawson to replace Akers. UGH.

http://www.rotoworld.com/headlines/n...-replace-akers

I agree, Mike Wallace or Dashon Goldson would have been better kickers.

dan77733 · 03-19-2013, 06:52 PM

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He was 29-31 last year. What's not to like?

He's a veteran kicker. I must admit that im tired of veteran kickers. The first year they do great and then are crap the second year. Cycle just keeps repeating.

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I agree, Mike Wallace or Dashon Goldson would have been better kickers.

Haha, funny but if our secondary gets torched due to an old aging veteran FS or a rookie who has no clue as to what he should be doing and if Boldin becomes the 2013 version of Moss, just remember who said it first.

Menardo75 · 03-19-2013, 06:59 PM

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He's a veteran kicker. I must admit that im tired of veteran kickers. The first year they do great and then are crap the second year. Cycle just keeps repeating.

Yeah especially that Joe "money" Nedney guy. Or Jeff Reed.

Borat · 03-19-2013, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dan77733

Haha, funny but if our secondary gets torched due to an old aging veteran FS or a rookie who has no clue as to what he should be doing and if Boldin becomes the 2013 version of Moss, just remember who said it first.

I'm fairly confident you'll remind us about a 1000 times.

49erNation85 · 03-19-2013, 10:10 PM

Really 49ers , Phil Dawson wtf . Just draft a damn kicker already **** whole ugh .. Enough with the darn vet kickers. ****

Ness · 03-19-2013, 10:25 PM

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Really 49ers , Phil Dawson wtf . Just draft a damn kicker already **** whole ugh .. Enough with the darn vet kickers. ****

Post fail. Phil Dawson is one of the best kickers in the NFL. What is wrong with you?

Ness · 03-19-2013, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by farfromforgotten

He was 29-31 last year. What's not to like?

And he was 7-8 on field goals of 50 yards or more and 8-8 the season before that.

dan77733 · 03-19-2013, 10:35 PM

Just because Dawson was excellent last season doesnt mean he'll match or surpass that. Sorry. I'm just tired of depending on veteran kickers every year because in the end, they get replaced. As for Nedney, he was good for a few seasons until 2009 when he declined to 81% and then got injured in 2010. What's funny is that you guys always talk about building through the draft yet you prefer a old veteran kicker instead of drafting a rookie. I know im the opposite of pretty much everyone here and thats fine, to each his own but I would think that you guys would much rather have a rookie kicker who could be our kicker for the long term instead of just a one or two year stopgap and just recycling the process. As for other players like Goldson, Wallace or others, what can I say, I would much rather go all out for one year to win the ******* Super Bowl even at the cost of sacrificing two years afterwards because as much as rebuilding for two years would suck, being so ******* close to winning the Super Bowl but losing in it or not getting there sucks a hell of a lot more, at least for me anyway.

Ness · 03-19-2013, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dan77733

Just because Dawson was excellent last season doesnt mean he'll match or surpass that. Sorry. I'm just tired of depending on veteran kickers every year because in the end, they get replaced. As for Nedney, he was good for a few seasons until 2009 when he declined to 81% and then got injured in 2010. What's funny is that you guys always talk about building through the draft yet you prefer a old veteran kicker instead of drafting a rookie. I know im the opposite of pretty much everyone here and thats fine, to each his own but I would think that you guys would much rather have a rookie kicker who could be our kicker for the long term instead of just a one or two year stopgap and just recycling the process. As for other players like Goldson, Wallace or others, what can I say, I would much rather go all out for one year to win the ******* Super Bowl even at the cost of sacrificing two years afterwards because as much as rebuilding for two years would suck, being so ******* close to winning the Super Bowl but losing in it or not getting there sucks a hell of a lot more, at least for me anyway.

Just because Tom Brady has been very good his entire career doesn't mean he'll be good this upcoming season. New England should get rid of him. That would be the smart thing to do. He's getting way too old.

And since when are rookie kickers clearly better than veteran kickers?

49erNation85 · 03-19-2013, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ness

Post fail. Phil Dawson is one of the best kickers in the NFL. What is wrong with you?

Um not a fail because again we're singing an old kicker like Dan he could fall off just like Akers did for us in the second year. I'm sure we can draft a real good kicker is 6th or 7th round and still land our all of needs before hand. I'm too tired of resigning old vets at key positions wide out and kicker mostly. We signed Akers after he had a good season and sub par year one with us then just dropped off this last year and was terrible in the play offs. It is just damn time to draft a kicker how hard is it!!

dan77733 · 03-19-2013, 10:45 PM

On a side note -

Anyone here interested in trading for Titans WR Nate Washington to play on the outside with Boldin in the slot? Washington is due to earn $4.2m in 2013 and $4.8m in 2014 according to rotoworld.com. Granted, thats a high salary but he's definitely still a deep threat and averaged over 16 yards a reception.

Another WR possibility would be Eagles WR Jeremy Maclin who's entering the final year of his rookie deal. He'll be 25 in May. His average is definitely lower than Washington and I dont think that he's a speed threat, having him on the outside would still make our offense a lot more dangerous. His salary for 2013 is just over $3.2m.

Thoughts?

dan77733 · 03-19-2013, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Ness

Just because Tom Brady has been very good his entire career doesn't mean he'll be good this upcoming season. New England should get rid of him. That would be the smart thing to do. He's getting way too old.

And since when are rookie kickers clearly better than veteran kickers?

Huge difference between a quarterback and a kicker. For a kicker, its all him in regards to making or missing the FG. With the QB, its his job to throw the ball where he needs to but its not his job to block or catch the ball.

I never said that rookie kickers are better. There's no guarantee that a rookie would do better than Dawson but at the same time, there's no guarantee that a rookie kicker wouldnt do better. For both, it could go either way. I was just hoping that with all the draft picks the team has, they would at least draft a kicker. To be honest, I think the last time we drafted a kicker was Jeff Chandler in 2002. Granted, he sucked but that doesnt mean every rookie kicker will suck. Look at Tucker for BAL and Walsh for MIN.

49ersfan_87 · 03-19-2013, 10:50 PM

Dawson only signed a 1 year deal so its not like he's guaranteed anything. He'll compete with a late round pick or UDFA and nothing will be handed to anyone.

49erNation85 · 03-19-2013, 11:01 PM

Well okay then I just don't see why we can't draft a kicker. One will be at 6th or 7th round no doubt even Sturgis will be a good kicker if not Hopkins.

Ness · 03-19-2013, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dan77733

Huge difference between a quarterback and a kicker. For a kicker, its all him in regards to making or missing the FG. With the QB, its his job to throw the ball where he needs to but its not his job to block or catch the ball.

I never said that rookie kickers are better. There's no guarantee that a rookie would do better than Dawson but at the same time, there's no guarantee that a rookie kicker wouldnt do better. For both, it could go either way. I was just hoping that with all the draft picks the team has, they would at least draft a kicker. To be honest, I think the last time we drafted a kicker was Jeff Chandler in 2002. Granted, he sucked but that doesnt mean every rookie kicker will suck. Look at Tucker for BAL and Walsh for MIN.

If it could go either way then why are you bitching about it?

Oh and I guess we'll just use the "quarterbacks are different" card as an excuse to try and justify the ridiculous logic you initially put forth. Okay.

Menardo75 · 03-19-2013, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 49erNation85

Um not a fail because again we're singing an old kicker like Dan he could fall off just like Akers did for us in the second year. I'm sure we can draft a real good kicker is 6th or 7th round and still land our all of needs before hand. I'm too tired of resigning old vets at key positions wide out and kicker mostly. We signed Akers after he had a good season and sub par year one with us then just dropped off this last year and was terrible in the play offs. It is just damn time to draft a kicker how hard is it!!

Akers only played two seasons with the Niners you loon. He had a record breaking year and then a horrendous one so what? It happens. Dawson was the best kicker in football last year don't see how this is a bad signing.

Menardo75 · 03-19-2013, 11:11 PM

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Well okay then I just don't see why we can't draft a kicker. One will be at 6th or 7th round no doubt even Sturgis will be a good kicker if not Hopkins.

And it probably never occurred to you that Dawson is better than anyone in the draft did it? So drafting a kicker then would be a good idea why?

YAYareaRB · 03-19-2013, 11:23 PM

you guys act like kickers are expensive or something. if we can get 1 money year from a veteran kicker, what's to cry about?

49erNation85 · 03-19-2013, 11:42 PM

We will see how it plays out . i'm done for know ..

Menardo75 · 03-19-2013, 11:59 PM

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We will see how it plays out . i'm done for know ..

You are done for NOW!

edgrenade · 03-20-2013, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dan77733

On a side note -

Anyone here interested in trading for Titans WR Nate Washington to play on the outside with Boldin in the slot? Washington is due to earn $4.2m in 2013 and $4.8m in 2014 according to rotoworld.com. Granted, thats a high salary but he's definitely still a deep threat and averaged over 16 yards a reception.

Another WR possibility would be Eagles WR Jeremy Maclin who's entering the final year of his rookie deal. He'll be 25 in May. His average is definitely lower than Washington and I dont think that he's a speed threat, having him on the outside would still make our offense a lot more dangerous. His salary for 2013 is just over $3.2m.

Thoughts?

I'd rather just draft a guy. I think we're done bringing in veteran WRs now.

Who are some receivers you guys like? I think they are very deep this year, and it's going to be like that draft a few years ago where all those RBs came in and made an impact. 07 maybe?