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Old 03-19-2013, 09:40 PM    (permalink
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House of Cards is great. Surprisingly so. I feel its only a matter of time before people here start giving it its full due.
I thought it was very good. Really liked it a lot. Left plenty of room for another season and was great on its own at the same time.

And another example of a show with pretty solid women characters if we want to bring that to this thread.
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His torture scene tonight was pretty goddamn great. Awesome episode on the whole, shame it isn't watched by more people here though (jvig and diab are barely here anyway, they don't count).
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I'm almost done with The West Wing. About 12-14 more episodes to go.

It's taken quite a few months but it's been good stuff.
I've been watching it, slower than most shows I watch after theyre out. Think I'm halfway through season 5 or so. It's a great show, but nothing I'll rave about. I like all of the characters and the major stories, but so many of the episodes feel like just one week filler episodes trying to get closer to the beginning or the end of a season so they can get serious again.

Some episodes are fantastic. Some really good scenes of tv. If anything I'd just say each season is too long, but you'll have that with week to week dramas like this.
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It was mentioned a few times (I'm pretty sure I posted about it the first night it came on).

It was hilarious, but it seems the concept is dead now. Basically, after season 1... it wasn't funny. It still has its moments, but in general, it's just not that good anymore. The shock value has worn off.
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House of Cards is great. Surprisingly so. I feel its only a matter of time before people here start giving it its full due.
I just got a free month of Netflix and we just started watching this. About 6ish episodes through it and we LOVE it so far. I haven't liked a new show this much since I first discovered Game of Thrones last year.
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I just got a free month of Netflix and we just started watching this. About 6ish episodes through it and we LOVE it so far. I haven't liked a new show this much since I first discovered Game of Thrones last year.
I already had Netflix, but figured I might as well put it to use and give the show a chance, a choice I was glad to make. And House of Cards actually reminds me a lot of Game of Thrones, this version set in the modern American political system.
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I've been watching it, slower than most shows I watch after theyre out. Think I'm halfway through season 5 or so. It's a great show, but nothing I'll rave about. I like all of the characters and the major stories, but so many of the episodes feel like just one week filler episodes trying to get closer to the beginning or the end of a season so they can get serious again.

Some episodes are fantastic. Some really good scenes of tv. If anything I'd just say each season is too long, but you'll have that with week to week dramas like this.
I agree with that almost entirely. If I had to give the series an overall grade seven seasons in I'd say probably a B-. Honestly, and I don't want to spoil anything for you, but the current election race now to me is MUCH more interesting. I've heard some people say it falls off at the end but I think it's the series at it's best. It's way more fast paced and interesting and doesn't feel like filler as you said.

Some of the episodes in the series are amazing and some, like you said, are just meh. I like most of the characters. I almost feel like the show is about Leo more than anyone. There's a lot of time where we really don't even see Bartlett, especially as the series goes on.

It's a TV show so I wish they would have just said screw it and bring in more of the dramatization we see in some episodes. Give me more national security issues, more high topic lawmaking debates, etc. That's what was awesome to me. I know Rosebud said that's what made it unrealistic (or something to that extent) but it's TV. That's the point of TV.
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West Wing as a series is not a B-. Try A+++. I have no idea what you 2 are talking about.

Bartlett was never supposed to be the main focus of the show.
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I was like 3 episodes in to House of Cards and then got sidetracked with other things. I need to get back to it.
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Anyone who gives The West Wing a B- is an idiot who deserves to be pushed off a cliff. Lookin at you Forenci.

And like GF said. President Barlett isn't the main focus of the show. He was never supposed to be.
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They better make a season 2 of House of Cards. I completely agree with the comparison to Game of Thrones and in some ways I like House of Cards even more. There is not a single poor job done by any of the actors. As great as Robin Wright and Kevin Spacey are I was blown away by Corey Stoll as Peter Russo. I became a huge fan after his portrayal of Ernest Hemingway but he exceeded my very high expectations. Masterfully done. I can't recommend this show highly enough.

Since we are on the topic of West Wing I would say House of Cards is the better politic show in every way.
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Gonzo, I looked it up when we started watching it and they already announced a second season and its currently in production
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Gonzo, I looked it up when we started watching it and they already announced a second season and its currently in production
Thank you Grizz! I mean with the way season 1 ended I thought that was the class but glad to see that confirmed. I am very excited to see what direction they take the show in for season 2.
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I agree with the West Wing being a B show. It's not great, but it's a nice solid, overly simplistic show, with solid characters. Plus for a sorkin love triangle it's not even terrible.
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I think it would have been one of my all time favorite shows had it just been a 12 episode season. Just cut some of the filler episodes that don't really do anything to move the story forward.

Love all the major characters. Love the major stories that we get at the beginning and the end of the seasons. It's just the episodes in the middle that feel like theyre and hour of filler to try to get to the end of the season that I don't really like.
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Anyone who gives The West Wing a B- is an idiot who deserves to be pushed off a cliff. Lookin at you Forenci.

And like GF said. President Barlett isn't the main focus of the show. He was never supposed to be.
I know...that's what I said, that he wasn't. I said Leo was the main focus, mostly. Odd how you guys didn't get that..

It's a good show. It's not bad by any means. I just think the ratio between episodes where I'm like, "Holy crap this is awesome" and episodes that are just filler or mediocre are too many.

It will probably be a B or B+ show by the time I'm done. I'm actually loving the final season. Much more fast paced and a lot of good episodes for my money.

I love most of the characters. The problem stems from boring and repetitive plots in many episodes.

I'm a fan of the show, don't get me wrong. I'd recommend for people to watch it for sure.
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His torture scene tonight was pretty goddamn great. Awesome episode on the whole, shame it isn't watched by more people here though (jvig and diab are barely here anyway, they don't count).
Hey I work seven days a week and am taking 17 credits this semester, I think I post quite a bit considering. And I always chime in with Justified talk. This show just has so many awesome characters. Even Colt was awesome last night. The set up for these last few episodes are going to be fantastic.
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looooool, no.
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Let me guess, you haven't watched House of Cards.
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Let me guess, you haven't watched House of Cards.
I have. And I've seen The West Wing. There is no comparison between the two at all. The West Wing beats House of Cards at every level. Plot, characters, everything. It isn't close.
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Anyone here watch The Following with Kevin Bacon? Personally, I think thats the best damn show on TV right now.

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Anyone else watch Southland, The Walking Dead or Vikings? I like all three and just want to see if anyone else here watches them too.
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I have. And I've seen The West Wing. There is no comparison between the two at all. The West Wing beats House of Cards at every level. Plot, characters, everything. It isn't close.
Well I disagree and think the opposite is true. The West Wing is good though I actually enjoyed Sports Night more.
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I enjoyed Sports Night more too, personally.

As far as Sorkin shows go that I've seen, I'd probably rate them:

Sports Night
West Wing
Newsroom
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