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Old 03-20-2013, 10:33 AM    (permalink
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Not this **** again.
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Not this **** again.
Kentucky was ranked #3 in the country to start off the season just because they had the #1 recruiting class. The fact that they couldn't even beat Robert F. Morris just proves my point. Having the #1 recruiting class in the nation doesn't mean sh*t.

I'm not trying to be a d*ck. I find it annoying that people make these factual statements that Kentucky is going to be so great next year when next year hasn't even arrived. Next year's team could be just as bad. They could get a #1 seed, but I doubt it. Just don't act like you know what's going to happen. That's why they play the game.
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If Noel doesn't go down they're probably in the dance. Having your best player helps.

But go ahead, keep covering your ears and yelling "lalalalalala recruiting class means nothing." Fact is, that class is probably going to have 4 players that look like they could go straight to the NBA from high school. And the loss to Robert Morris doesn't prove ******* anything. Teams miss the tournament sometimes. **** happens.
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If Noel doesn't go down they're probably in the dance. Having your best player helps.

But go ahead, keep covering your ears and yelling "lalalalalala recruiting class means nothing." Fact is, that class is probably going to have 4 players that look like they could go straight to the NBA from high school. And the loss to Robert Morris doesn't prove ******* anything. Teams miss the tournament sometimes. **** happens.
**** happened a lot to Kentucky this year.
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And now they just landed Julius Randle. If they don't get a 1 or 2 seed next season I'll be shocked.
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A program like Kentucky should never miss the dance with their recruiting classes. And they should never lose to RMU in the first round of the NIT. But god damn do I love seeing it happen.
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Kentucky's recruiting class was good last year, but nowhere near at this year's level (which is much closer to what they had two years ago). And because of how this year's team did, they're going to get some of this year's freshmen back. I don't think anyone thinks they're guaranteed a #1 seed since it's way too early for that, but odds are they're going to be very, very good.

Also, they weren't #3 just because of that recruiting class, it was that and the fact that they're a huge name school who was coming off of a national championship. College hoops teams get overrated based on what they did to end the previous year all the time.
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Kentucky was ranked #3 in the country to start off the season just because they had the #1 recruiting class. The fact that they couldn't even beat Robert F. Morris just proves my point. Having the #1 recruiting class in the nation doesn't mean sh*t.

I'm not trying to be a d*ck. I find it annoying that people make these factual statements that Kentucky is going to be so great next year when next year hasn't even arrived. Next year's team could be just as bad. They could get a #1 seed, but I doubt it. Just don't act like you know what's going to happen. That's why they play the game.
It is the recruiting class, and the fact that they will be returing 3 top players from this squad...Cauley Stein, Poythress, and Goodwin.

And when was the last time that happened??? Oh 2 years ago, when they brought in a top class and still had Terrence Jones,Teague, and Miller returning from the previous year.
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It is the recruiting class, and the fact that they will be returing 3 top players from this squad...Cauley Stein, Poythress, and Goodwin.

And when was the last time that happened??? Oh 2 years ago, when they brought in a top class and still had Terrence Jones,Teague, and Miller returning from the previous year.
You really think Willie Cauley-Stein is coming back? He's projected as a top 10 pick. Archie Goodwin is probably going pro as well. Poythress is probably coming back. So, it will probably be him and Wiltjer coming back.
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You really think Willie Cauley-Stein is coming back? He's projected as a top 10 pick. Archie Goodwin is probably going pro as well. Poythress is probably coming back. So, it will probably be him and Wiltjer coming back.
Cauley Stein better come back for his sake - sweet jesus that kid needs some work.

Goodwin I can see coming back. He was the only one that had some fire for Kentucky last night and the only one really in the last couple games. He indicated last night he was coming back after the game.

Basically, I don't see these kids leaving the program after what show they just put on.

And Poythress already noted that he is coming back last night as you said.
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Agreed - if they had not bowed out this season like they did. I can't see kids leaving a program like Kentucky the way it is right now and knowing they were the reason for people laughing at the university.
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If Kentucky lost a few games and got a 7 or 8 seed, you might have a point. You can't maintain a consistent level of constant success and down seasons happen.

Missing the tournament and losing in the 1st round of the NIT? That's not just "**** happens" for a program like Kentucky, and the OP (annoying as he can be) has a point that relying on freshman is playing with fire.
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It is the recruiting class, and the fact that they will be returing 3 top players from this squad...Cauley Stein, Poythress, and Goodwin.

And when was the last time that happened??? Oh 2 years ago, when they brought in a top class and still had Terrence Jones,Teague, and Miller returning from the previous year.
Pretty sure Teague was a frosh that year.
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Pretty sure Teague was a frosh that year.
My bad, you are right. I got him mixed up with Doron Lamb.


So it was Terrence Jones, Miller and Lamb returning with all those freshmen.
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I'm actually surprised they don't have this debate on First Take. I would love to see Skip try and aruge that a women's team could even beat a 16 seed.
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People at my work are suggesting that the Baylor women's team could compete in the men's tourney. I laughed and then got dirty looks from everyone.

I'm actually surprised they don't have this debate on First Take. I would love to see Skip try and aruge that a women's team could even beat a 16 seed.
I would have laughed with you. And then maybe a high five afterwards.
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I would have laughed with you. And then maybe a high five afterwards.
It's worse because one of my coworkers has a daughter that plays at Tennessee so they are really into Women's Basketball.
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It's worse because one of my coworkers has a daughter that plays at Tennessee so they are really into Women's Basketball.
Oh boy- that is a tough situation.

Seriously though, how could one person think Baylor could beat any team in the tourney let alone get to a sweet 16. I realize how sexist this sounds, but women's basketball is still miles away from men's product. I'm not even sure a WNBA team could win a game in the tourney.
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If Kentucky lost a few games and got a 7 or 8 seed, you might have a point. You can't maintain a consistent level of constant success and down seasons happen.

Missing the tournament and losing in the 1st round of the NIT? That's not just "**** happens" for a program like Kentucky, and the OP (annoying as he can be) has a point that relying on freshman is playing with fire.
They're probably in if Noel's healthy. I just don't see how missing it once when your best player goes down is a huge deal.
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People at my work are suggesting that the Baylor women's team could compete in the men's tourney. I laughed and then got dirty looks from everyone.

I'm actually surprised they don't have this debate on First Take. I would love to see Skip try and aruge that a women's team could even beat a 16 seed.
I'm wondering if a women's team could beat a good high school boy's team? there would be a big difference in fundamentals/coaching, but they are using a smaller ball, women aren't physically built the same way, I mean a tall woman is maybe 6' tall, and everyone on any division 1 college men's team is between 6'0" and 7'0"+ with some exceptions on guards who are smaller/quicker. IOW, tall for a woman's bball player is very very short for a men's bball player.

But yeah, anyone who thinks ANY woman's team ever wouldn't get absolutely blown out by ANY division 1 men's team (let alone a tourney team) is clueless about basketball and the world in general.
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My high school team would have kicked the **** out of Greiner and that Baylor squad.
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