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Old 03-27-2013, 03:02 PM    (permalink
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He's funny out of his stance at times, gets beat inside on film. Extremely raw, questionable football IQ at this time I've seen him run upfield on a passing play and be 4 yards upfield before the ball was thrown. Really needs to use his hands better.

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You have Da'rick Rogers sir. Not Menelik.
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You have Da'rick Rogers sir. Not Menelik.
Yeah I was already typing a response before you had responded but here's Rogers.

Lacks explosion and top end speed. Considered a little lazy in his route running (stopping prematurely, rounding them off etc). Of course, there's also the off the field issues.

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Pretty much the only knack on Tank is his lack of experience. When he got FSU from juco, he was rotational player but an effective rotational player. He got his chance to shine with Jenkins going out after 1st game, and showed all his attributes only to get a torn ACL in last regular season game vs. Florida. Basically lack of experience and recovery from injury are his only knocks.

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Pretty much the only knack on Tank is his lack of experience. When he got FSU from juco, he was rotational player but an effective rotational player. He got his chance to shine with Jenkins going out after 1st game, and showed all his attributes only to get a torn ACL in last regular season game vs. Florida. Basically lack of experience and recovery from injury are his only knocks.

Tyler Wilson
I really like Tyler Wilson. Biggest knock to me is he has tiny hands. He's probably going to fumble a lot in his career. That didn't stop Kurt Warner from being a really good QB though. Wilson does also have issues when he gets pressured, but what QB doesn't? Has some ugly senior tape, but was amazing as a JR. Lost his coach, lost his top 3 WRs, OL was terrible, Knile Davis wasn't very good. I think he can be a solid QB.

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Concentration lapses. Hes a great players and hes definitely gaining confidence in his knee but watching hunter you see some dropsies from not focusing and some lackluster effort that could be seen as taking plays off

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Not very explosive or elusive. Might have trouble getting separation in the pros. Despite returning punts at LA Tech, I dont see a player who creates a lot with the ball in his hands in the open field.
Didnīt face a lot of high end competition in college.
That being said, I like Pattons overall game quite a lot. Im just not sure he has the potential to be anything more than a really solid #2 WR at the next level.

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Not very explosive or elusive. Might have trouble getting separation in the pros. Despite returning punts at LA Tech, I dont see a player who creates a lot with the ball in his hands in the open field.
Didnīt face a lot of high end competition in college.
That being said, I like Pattons overall game quite a lot. Im just not sure he has the potential to be anything more than a really solid #2 WR at the next level.

Khaseem Greene?
Tackling machine but doesn't really take on blockers at all. Either goes around or beats blockers to the point to make most of his tackles. Not as good in pass coverage as you would expect for someone that athletic and being a former safety. Because of his trouble taking on blocks, I do wonder if he may be a 4-3 WLB only.

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Clearly his diminutive size is the biggest knock, but it's nothing something that bothers me about him.

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Ok so this thread is pretty simple....

Don't forget to respond to the previous poster AND leave a player for the next person to comment on.
Nobody is doing this right anymore.
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Sorry...I didn't know enough about Ryan Swope to make an educated statement.
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Actually very good after the catch as he was a rb in highschool. great straight line speed.

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Think the thing that really pops to mind for me is the short arms. I think he's pretty well-rounded. He misses some blocks, but since he's more of a receiver to me, and supposed to be a "size" receiver as he's a tight end, the things that negatively impact his ability to catch are more significant red marks. And since short arms fall right into the middle of the "size" category, being his catching radius, I think that's probably the biggest knock.

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Age. They're both 24 years old already. Got that "Old man strength."

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Speed. A lot of people are getting hung up on his timed speed. He is definitely not a blazer, and there is some concern towards his ability to separate from the DB in the NFL due to that. He has terrific instincts, and knows how to use his body to separate so in the end I think we will look back and laugh at these concerns.


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Again, in a word, speed. He's not that good in space, but in close quarters he shows impressive power and drive. If he gets a good shot at a defender, he's very effective.

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Again, in a word, speed. He's not that good in space, but in close quarters he shows impressive power and drive. If he gets a good shot at a defender, he's very effective.

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A former QB and TE whose high grades are based primarily on potential rather than his game film. Still has trouble with the little things like hand placement and knee bend. Probably will never be a great run blocker, because he is not naturally the most powerful.

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Closing speed and experience. Mostly the former. Reminds me a lot of Derrick Morgan. Safe pick, should be a strong starter, but probably won't put up elite sack numbers.

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I see him getting caught on his heels sometimes. Defenders can get him going backwards if they get into his chest, and occasionally he gives it to them. Little bit like he's trying to catch the defender coming at him instead of driving him.

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Actually very good after the catch as he was a rb in highschool. great straight line speed.
Thanks,I am pretty familiar with his positives, I knew about him coming out of high school and kind of lost track until Manziel hit the scene and then went back and looked at the last two years, trying to figure out his biggest knocks, watching his games I can't rule him out of being in that top 5 or 6 spot yet he is just isn't being talked about in that category.

Mayock keeps reporting the 4 concussion thing but I watched almost every game and can only find two, one that was thought to be serious but they ran tests and it turned out to be pretty mild, which was against LA Tech. There was a reported one against OSU but I watched it he took a big hit, looked like he was trying to draw a flag more than anything he came out for a few plays, no trainers assisting him and then went back in and caught a few more passes and then played the next week against Arkansas and did well. He got the wind knocked out of him a later in the year OU but no reported concussion (he stil played and had close to 150 yards), it was just speculated by fans that it was because he reportedly got one a few weeks before, the only one he missed playing time from was LA Tech, if that were a bigger team he might have stayed in. From his interviews he seems to be pretty cautious with his head so it seems like he is reporting those mild dings that some players get where it might be a mild concussion but they don't report them. His take on it was that it was his brain and he didn't want to mess around with it. The fact that the tests came back and that his biggest one was pretty mild (where he was able to come back the next week against LSU and play fine) doesn't seem like that big of a deal. I still can't find the other 2, except for the 3rd one which is speculative. He played in every single game and LA Tech was the only one he stayed out for the rest of the game. None of them were like a Jahvid Best or Austin Collie type hit, just some minor head to head collisions that I see frequently with other players that he seemed to be anal about getting checked out afterwards to be on the safe side.

Trying to find out his exact 40 yard, I know NFL reports a 4.34 but nfldraftscout has it reported that he ran a 4.26 and a 4.28. He has the quickness to play the slot but also has the bulk/speed and height to play on the outside, beat corners in the SEC lined up on the outside so I don't see it being a problem translating, he is 204 or 206 pounds at 6'1, so not like he is in the 170 to 190 frame. Ideally Id like to see him switch up between the slot and the outside, even though he fits on the outside, he is just built so much like a rb and looks like one with the ball in his hands that it would be nice to see him on some screen passes, pretty physical guy that bounces off of tacklers from time to time.

As far as the guy I was supposed to do, Eric Herman, been watching Ohio games to do that the past two days. Not great with analyzing linemen but so far the main thing is wondering how he will do against NFL players. I mean the dude is big and the conference he plays in tends to have some undersized guys. I mean a 320 pound dude has it a little easy mauling MAC guys, and he did have a bunch of pancakes, even a few decleaters. Probably needs to refine his pass protection, might not have the ideal speed to pull but will have to watch more.

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