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Who are your fringe 1st round picks this year that will undoubtedly blow up the back end of your mock draft?

Guys who have been hanging around the 2nd/3rd round ratings that are going to jump up.

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E.J Manuel

RB

Jonathan Franklin

OT

Terron Armstead

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Larry Warford
Justin Pugh

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Brandon Williams

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Khaseem Greene

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Jamar Taylor
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Everyone has Cyprien as a 2nd round safety. Not many put him in the first round in their mocks but in the 2nd he's supposed to be a steal. I think he goes top 25. Could see Rams selecting him with the 22nd pick.
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Everyone has Cyprien as a 2nd round safety. Not many put him in the first round in their mocks but in the 2nd he's supposed to be a steal. I think he goes top 25. Could see Rams selecting him with the 22nd pick.
Have a hard time seeing him get past SF. Although they only take him at 31, if there is a risk he's taken/traded up for at 32/33.

St. Louis has to be looking for FS. That's a key position for them. I don't see them doubling up on safeties in R1. FS is important enough to acquire. But they have an OL to fix. And this is the draft to do it in.
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I will do one for each position.

QB- Ryan Nassib
RB- Giovani Bernard
WR- Quinton Patton
TE- Gavin Escobar
OT- Terron Armstead
G- Kyle Long Oregon
C- Barrett Jones/Travis Fredrick

DE- Margus Hunt
DT- Sylvester Williams
ILB- Kiko Alonso
OLB- Sio Moore
CB- Jordan Poyer
S- Eric Reid
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I will do one for each position.

QB- Ryan Nassib
RB- Giovani Bernard
WR- Quinton Patton
TE- Gavin Escobar
OT- Terron Armstead
G- Kyle Long Oregon
C- Barrett Jones/Travis Fredrick

DE- Margus Hunt
DT- Sylvester Williams
ILB- Kiko Alonso
OLB- Sio Moore
CB- Jordan Poyer
S- Eric Reid
Kyle Long is a question mark for me because I think he needs some time on the bench and seasoning.

He is athletic as they get, but his footwork is choppy and undisciplined.

I think a 1st round OG will need to start right away.
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Of the players who haven't been mentioned...

Jamie Collins and David Bahktiari come to mind. There's a steep drop off in pass rushers after the top 20ish picks. Freak athletes who are D-Lineman or pass rushers always get pushed up and Collins is exactly that. Athletically he reminds me a lot of Nick Perry but a little better side to side. Think one of the teams in the back-end of the first may take a chance on his athletic upside knowing that they may struggle to find someone in the 2nd round round.

Bahktiari from Colorado is a guy I rally think could can play everything from LT to C and which will be very appealing to some of the teams in late 1. Very good athlete with a lot of quality film. Not a term usually associated with O-Line but probably has the best motor of any player in this draft. Might be little bit of a stretch but it seems like there's usually some O-Lineman who creep up into the 1st and go earlier than expected.

I also think we see 4th and maybe a 5th CB go in the first whether that's Taylor, Alford, Hayden, etc.
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I had Amerson as a fringe first rounder, but now he looks like he'll be no worse than the 3rd corner drafted, probably no later than the 20th pick.
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I had Amerson as a fringe first rounder, but now he looks like he'll be no worse than the 3rd corner drafted, probably no later than the 20th pick.
Wait wut? Am I missing something?
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Wait wut? Am I missing something?
I'm projecting. Maybe he still is a fringe first rounder, but I kind of see Amerson with a slight edge over Trufant to be the third corner drafted, sometime in the first.
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I'm projecting. Maybe he still is a fringe first rounder, but I kind fo see Amerson with a slight edge over Trufant to be the third corner drafted, sometime in the first.
Did you rewind to August? David Amerson has far too many question marks as a corner to go first round.
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Think Warford is kind of the inverse of Long; if some team can get over him not being an explosive athlete, they're going to get a true plug 'n' play guard.
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Would you guys take Warford or Fluker to play RG in your power system?
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QB
Matt Barkley
E.J. Manuel
Ryan Nassib

RB
Eddie Lacy

WR
Justin Hunter

TE
Zach Ertz

OT
Menelik Watson
Justin Pugh

OG
Larry Warford

DT
Johnathan Hankins
Kawann Short

DE
Cornelius Carradine
Sam Montgomery
Alex Okafor
Margus Hunt
Datone Jones

LB
Manti Te'o
Arthur Brown
Jamie Collins

CB
Johnthan Banks
D.J. Hayden

S
Jonathan Cyprien
Matt Elam
Eric Reid
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