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Old 04-03-2013, 08:38 PM    (permalink
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Mosley is a great backup. That's a really good signing.
He's the guy who hurt Stafford's shoulder in the game against the Browns where Stafford came back out on the field to throw the last second TD.
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Whether we agree with the rules or not these guys need to comply with them.

I'm with you though on weed being treated differently. It's legal in this state so they should let Seahawks players toke away as far as I'm concerned.
League can't allow that. Would give the Seahawks and Broncos unfair advantages in attracting FAs.
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League can't allow that. Would give the Seahawks and Broncos unfair advantages in attracting FAs.
I agree. The NFL is a privately run organisation and they 'shouldn't' just change the rules based on modifications to state legislation.
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The NFL can make whatever rule they want. If players dont like the fact that they cant smoke weed or take any other debatable drug then they shouldnt sign the papers.

I think any reasonable human being could set aside weed and adderal for millions of dollars. Meh, then again its only millions, thats such a difficult choice.
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Lol what's up with Donte, man....

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To be fair, he was playing in Philly. I wouldn't want to make any friends in that turd of a city either.
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I don't know, he wasn't Ryan Lindley bad, but watching those Cardinals games last season were on another level of pathetic. I might honestly take my chances with Zac Robinson or Josh Johnson over Skelton.
I'm probably in the minority, but I feel like AZ wrecked Lindley and Skelton. Both guys had tools to be a starter in this league, but not everyone is ready right away. They were both thrown out there way too early with an attrocious offensive line and developed bad habits which completely went down the drain. I think for both guys had they gone to a situation to learn 2-3 years in a good foundation you would have seen much better players.


I know you could probably say that about a ton of players, but for QB's specifically that aren't top caliber talents their development is just as important as the tools they were given.
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Atlanta released Tyson Clabo this morning???

Seriously Falcons, you couldn't just let Buffalo sign him 2 years ago?

Well the RT market just got even stronger, and Andre Smith/Winston died a little inside this morning.
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Is Clabo that good anymore?
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Oakland get a gtdamn RT!!!
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http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...arnest-in-2014

Someone was criticizing Reggie McKenzie. Saying not impressed and how the Matt Flynn move was bad somehow because of how it impacted the cap or something.... yeah...

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He cleared cap space. Like I said that's not difficult to do. You cut guys when the time is right. That's not hard.

The Flynn trade was dumb bc you're paying 6 million to a qb who is either gonna be a backup qb or a stop gap mediocre starting qb. Either way that's a dumb way to spend 6 million bucks.

They could have saved even more had they just cut Palmer and not signed Flynn.
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Flynn's a 5mil cap hit next year.

So you're saying you'd rather have 74 mil in cap space than Matt Flynn and 69 mil in cap space?
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Yup. Absolutely. There's no reason to ever pay a stop gap/backup qb that much money. Especially if he winds up being a backup. You're gonna have 5 million dollars holding a clipboard?

You draft your qb of the future, and you get a cheap backup either through the draft or FA. Think about what you can do with 5 million dollars on the rest of the team.
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We don't know what Flynn is.

He's been blocked by the best QB in the league and Jesus himself.

And Wilson beat him out in part because he had a shoulder injury last preseason...
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We do know what Flynn is. He's a guy who couldn't even get a contract offer from his former OC who saw him for 4 years. He's a guy who regardless of his injury, lost the job to a rookie qb (who didn't start the season well).

He's a guy who we have 4 years of preseason tape on, 2 regular season games, and 4 preseason games with the Seahawks. He's a guy who is a solid decision maker, but is ultimately limited by a weak arm who can't make all the throws and thus narrows the field.

In this league, the bottom line is if you can't make all the throws, you're not a starting caliber qb. It's why Alex Smith is mediocre, it's why Dalton is mediocre, it's why Fitzpatrick is mediocre etc.

All of them have the brains, character, poise etc, but they don't have the arm. And at the end of the day, this game does come down to athleticism even at the qb position.

We know what Flynn is.
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Woah there.

Dalton is not mediocre.
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What exactly are they going to do with that extra 5 mil? And Flynn isn't stopping them from drafting a QB.
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Dalton is mediocre. He's a grandma in the driver's seat of a Ferrari. His leash will get shorter after this year.

5 million a season can get you a pass rusher, it can get you a nice RT or OG, it can absolutely get you a player who will help fill holes on your team.
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What exactly are they going to do with that extra 5 mil? And Flynn isn't stopping them from drafting a QB.
Which is all the more reason why you don't pay Flynn. So let's say you still draft your qb of the future. Now what? Flynn is a 6 million dollar clip board.

Was that worth it?

Bc let's be real, when you draft a qb nowadays, he's gonna start. At best Flynn will play 8 games this season if they draft a qb.
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I disagree about Dalton. His arm strength is improving. He will hesitate sometimes to throw deep balls but still. His biggest problem is relying on AJ Green too much. He needs to stop locking on him, throw the ball around much more and trust his reads. He is far from mediocre.
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Dalton is decent. When I think of mediocre I think of someone like Kyle Orton, or Chad Henne.
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