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Old 03-29-2013, 06:11 PM    (permalink
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My two dream scenarios:

1) We do an Atlanta Falcons and make a trade with the Bills for the 8th pick and draft Eric Fisher/Lane Johnson

2) We trade back for the Bills 2nd rounder and draft BPA, and with our 2nd round pick we draft Schwenke out of Cal.
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Posted this over in the Mock Draft forum in response to Robcards 7 rounder. I'd be pretty happy with this result:

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Rd1 Jesse Williams
Rd2 Gavin Escobar
Rd3 Terrence Williams
Rd4 Chase Thomas
Rd5a Brennan Williams
Rd5b Zac Stacy
Rd6 Micah Hyde
Rd7 Quanterus Smith

I think Williams/Escobar helps the team more than Eifert/Hunt. Just not a believer in Hunt.

Terrence Williams definitely needs some refinement but has the ability to make plays on the ball downfield. Rodgers has shown he wil give his outside receivers chances even if covered and Terrence can make those plays. He wouldn't have to contribute right away but could soften the blow of likely losing Jones after next season.

Chase Thomas provides needed depth at OLB and maybe even ILB.

Brennan Williams is a value pick here. Starter upside and lots of questions at LT.

Zac Stacy is a good fit in the zone scheme. Could be a steal.

Micah Hyde as developmental FS.

Quanterus Smith has too much potential to pass on in favor of a kicker. I think the competition talk for Crosby is more lip service/motivational tactics than actually interest in replacing him
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Yeah, that would be pretty awesome. Only other thing I could possibly see is a QB late. I would also be a fan of trading down out of the first to acquire an additional 2nd-4th selection.
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What I did in the "5 rounds in 5 days" forum mock. Personally, i'm not a huge fan and think I could've done better. I went in focusing too much on getting help on defense instead of just going BPA like I would normally do.

1. Johnathan Cyprien, FS, Florida International
2. John Jenkins, NT, Georgia
3. Corey Lemonier, OLB, Auburn
4. Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas
5. Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M
5. Nick Becton, OT, Virginia Tech
5. Chris Harper, WR, Kansas State

My favorite picks were Christine Michael and Nick Becton. Both have potential to be very good players and they both fill needs, with Michael probably being able to start from day 1.

It was only 5 rounds, but if it had gone on longer I would've looked to add Mario Benavides and Dustin Hopkins/Caleb Sturgis with our last two picks.
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Don't beat yourself up, SP. Cyprien and Becton are my favorite selections and overall you did well.
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What's with the Jesse Williams love all of a sudden? I don't think he's anything special. I get that he's got versatility in a 3-4 scheme to play end or NT, which is an especially valuable trait in our brand of 3-4, but he also brings absolutely nothing as a pass rusher and is essentially a two-down player. You can get a 2 down NT/run-stuffed 3-4 DE in the 4th round. What's the point of his versatility position wise when all he brings is run stuffing?

I would like him in the 4th, I'd probably cry if we took him in the first or second.

I'm also wondering if we don't take a swing at Ogletree if he drops to us. I get that character concerns aren't TT's thing but there have been a couple times he's looked past it when talent is there in spades. I know we think ILB won't happen now that Jones was resigned.. which is exactly why I think it might. And Ogletree is a special talent that would be a lock for the top 15 if not for said character concerns.

It will definitely be an interesting draft.
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Ogletree has zero chance of happening. We already pay Bishop, Hawk and Jones a good deal of money, and all three won't see the field at the same time; much less add a first round pick to the mix.
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Ogletree has zero chance of happening. We already pay Bishop, Hawk and Jones a good deal of money, and all three won't see the field at the same time; much less add a first round pick to the mix.
I agree it wouldn't make sense.. but I always fear we'll do the senseless. Then again, that all really stems from the Harrell first round pick. Do we want Joe Staley? Nah, let's draft an injured DT from Tennessee. Argh! (Granted the Staley pick only makes sense in hindsight.) Since then it's been pretty logical, though.

Regardless, I don't get the love for NTs this year in the first. Unless Star dropped to us, which would be so, so awesome, any NT in the first would disappoint me. I don't want to draft a d-lineman with only one sack (Hankins and Jesse) or with a lackluster motor (Sylvester.)
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Regardless, I don't get the love for NTs this year in the first. Unless Star dropped to us, which would be so, so awesome, any NT in the first would disappoint me. I don't want to draft a d-lineman with only one sack (Hankins and Jesse) or with a lackluster motor (Sylvester.)
I don't love many of the nose tackle options either. Brandon Williams in the 2nd round is probably my favorite.

Sylvester Williams would be more of a five technique for us, and I wouldn't say he has a questionable motor because he is one of the hardest working players in this entire draft; he struggled this past season making the "statistical play". He often disrupted plays but didn't make the tackle as much as he probably should've.
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Tell me what you think about this scenario...

I think Geno Smith will still be available around our 1st round pick and I think Buffalo might be willing to trade up to get him at that point... so if we could land that by them trading us their 2nd and 3rd round picks.

2a. Menelik Watson, OT
2b. Le'Veon Bell, RB
3a. Brian Schwenke, OC
3b. Kiko Alonso, ILB
4. Vance McDonald, TE
5a. Aaron Mellette, WR
5b. Quinton Dial, DE
6. Earl Wolff, S
7. Dan Buckner, WR

Just let me know what you think about the players I picked.
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Tell me what you think about this scenario...

I think Geno Smith will still be available around our 1st round pick and I think Buffalo might be willing to trade up to get him at that point... so if we could land that by them trading us their 2nd and 3rd round picks.

2a. Menelik Watson, OT
2b. Le'Veon Bell, RB
3a. Brian Schwenke, OC
3b. Kiko Alonso, ILB
4. Vance McDonald, TE
5a. Aaron Mellette, WR
5b. Quinton Dial, DE
6. Earl Wolff, S
7. Dan Buckner, WR

Just let me know what you think about the players I picked.
I don't see the value in Watson, who is solely a RT imo. Bell reminds me of James Starks, albeit not as upright of a runner, and I'm not sure why we'd go for another player of that type.

Alonso is a guy I like talent wise but he has major red flags character and health wise.

I like McDonald in the 4th a LOT.

The later guys are always a crapshoot, so won't judge them too much.
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The Packers have scheduled a visit with Princeton DE Mike Catapano in the near future.

Packers beat writer Bob McGinn notes that the Packers visits have focused on likely undrafted free agents or players with medical questions. We don't know of any red flags in Catapano's injury history, but there is a chance he is not selected in the sixth- or seventh-round. His hips are a bit tight for an edge rusher, but Catapano has a very strong upper body.
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Catapano has been compared to Aaron Kampman by some.
Not sure if that's a good thing or bad because A) Kampman was great.
B) In a 4-3 defense.

Prince not only do we pay Bishop, Hawk, and Brad Jones at ILB, we also like DJ Smith... if he can come back this year from his injury.

I do really think we could upgrade EACH of those guys, a lot though, starting with the dude from K-State.... Arthur Brown.

But they have enough ILB's they apparently liked.... I don't know what they thought they saw versus Kaepernick. I feel we got no better vs him as the game went on. Was it all scheme?
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I think Rashaan Melvin (CB, Northern Illinois) is a name we're going to have to remember as a late round draft pick or undrafted free agent for this team.
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I REALLY hope TT doesn't fall in love with Teo. We know Ted's obsession for linebackers and linebackers like Teo
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AGREE 100%, plus remember there are those rumors of Manti's sexuality, and there are more than "rumors" about Teddy.

I'd puke in my mouth if we took him, although I firmly believe our ILBs (without Bishop) are so subpar, a lot of college guys could upgrade it. But they are playing Hawk, Bish, and Brad Jones already.
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AGREE 100%, plus remember there are those rumors of Manti's sexuality, and there are more than "rumors" about Teddy.
Lolwat??? I love you J-Mike, but one of your stranger posts.
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He's referring to the speculation in the past that TT is homosexual.
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He's referring to the speculation in the past that TT is homosexual.
Right thanks.... but I don't think it's really even "speculation" anymore compared to "assumed".... regardless, ironic that we heard about questions about Manti's sexuality.....

486, Have I not had other stranger posts? lol
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Here's what I've manage to do in the final forum mock so far

26 (26). DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
25 (55). Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA
26 (88). Phillip Thomas, Safety, Fresno State
25 (122). Ryan Jensen, T/G/C, Colorado State-Pueblo

26 (159). Green Bay Packers
34 (167). Green Bay Packers (compensatory selection)
25 (193). Green Bay Packers
26 (232). Green Bay Packers
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Here's what I've manage to do in the final forum mock so far

26 (26). DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
25 (55). Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA
26 (88). Phillip Thomas, Safety, Fresno State
25 (122). Ryan Jensen, T/G/C, Colorado State-Pueblo
Were/Are our problems mostly on offense or defense?
I thought our offense was still pretty damn good.

But if those guys are the clear BPA, we'll take it... only time will tell though as always.
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Were/Are our problems mostly on offense or defense?
I thought our offense was still pretty damn good.

But if those guys are the clear BPA, we'll take it... only time will tell though as always.
Our offense was pretty good, but looking to this next season and beyond, we'll have to replenish our receiving corp, try to get a guy we can rely on as a #1 back and depth along the offensive line is always a must.
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Teddy almost always drafts 1-3 guys who WE have never heard of, or imagined.

PF, throw out some of the many no-names who could possibly be that guy this time.

James Jones and Mike Neal were nowhere in anyone's mind when they were chosen, and high.

Then some later guys as well.

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First I'd look at the official visits

DE/OLB Andy Mulumba, Eastern Michigan

WR Eric Rogers, Cal Lutheran

FB Kyle Juszczyk, Harvard

CB Rashaan Melvin, Northern Illinois


WR Charles Johnson, Grand Valley State

FB Ina Liaina, San Jose State

S Don Jones, Arkansas State

WR Kevin Dorsey, Maryland

G Lane Taylor, Oklahoma State

DE/OLB Nate Palmer, Illinois State

CB Jumal Rolle, Catawba

DE Mike Catapano, Princeton

RB Michael Hill, Missouri Western

C Patrick Lewis, Texas A&M

S Jakar Hamilton, South Carolina State

Players I like

Other names I would add:

QB Ryan Griffin, Tulane
FB Zach Line, Southern Methodist
TE Josh Hill, Idaho State
OL Ryan Jensen, Colorado State-Pueblo
OG Edmund Kugbila, Valdosta State
C Lamar Mady, Youngstown State
DT Nicholas Williams, Samford
DT Jared Smith, New Hampshire
LB Jayson DiManche, Southern Illinois
LB Brandon Hepburn, Florida A&M
CB Dax Swanson, Sam Houston State
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Here's what I've manage to do in the final forum mock so far

26 (26). DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
25 (55). Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA
26 (88). Phillip Thomas, Safety, Fresno State
25 (122). Ryan Jensen, T/G/C, Colorado State-Pueblo

26 (159). Green Bay Packers
34 (167). Green Bay Packers (compensatory selection)
25 (193). Green Bay Packers
26 (232). Green Bay Packers
DeAndre Hopkins doesn't really light my world on fire, but I get the pick. Didn't really analyze how the forum draft went down, but I will pretty much stand by the Ted Thompson philosophy of taking the top player available or trading down. I'd probably prefer a trade out of the 1st in this draft unless somebody unexpectedly falls, but I wouldn't be upset with Hopkins as I think he'd benefit us now and even more so in the future.

I'm with you with on Johnathan Franklin. I think he's a great all around back who can be the main guy leaving Harris as a change of pace.

Thomas is obviously a risk given the injury, but he seemed to come back strong and could be a steal...love the pick.

I'll admit I don't know much about Jensen, but if he can play every spot on the line that would add some great depth and Ted definitely likes versatile guys.

Overall a good job. Probably grade it at B or B+ without looking at who else was available at those picks. Hopefully you can grab a pass rusher and developmental QB later.
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