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Old 04-13-2013, 12:40 PM    (permalink
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1. Luke Joeckel T Texas AM
2. Star Loutelleli DT Utah
3. Eric Fisher T Central Michigan
4. Shariff Floyd DT Florida
5. Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia
6. Chance Warmack G Alabama
7. Ziggy Ansah DE BYU
8. Xavier Rhodes CB Florida State
9. Kenny Vaccaro S Texas
10. Jonathon Cooper G North Carolina
11. Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas
12. Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri
13. Dee Milliner CB Alabama
14. Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame
15. Barkevious Mingo OLB LSU
16. Tank Carradine DE Florida State
17. Demantre Moore DE Texas AM
18. Lane Johnson T Oklahoma
19. Arthur Brown LB Kansas State
20. DeAndre Hopkins WR Clemson
21. Bjoern Werner DE Florida State
22. DJ Fluker T Alabama
23. Kawan Short DT Purdue
24. Dion Jordan OLB Oregon
25. Tavon Austin WR West Virginia
26. Cordelle Patterson WR Tennessee
27. EJ Manuel QB Florida State
28. Kasheeme Green OLB Rutgers
29. Desmond Trufant CB Washington
30. Eddie Lacey RB Alabama
31. Barrett Jones G./C Alabama
32. Alec Ogeltree LB Georgia
33. Justin Hunter WR Tennessee
34. Sylvester Williams DT North Carolina
35. Jonathon Hankins DT Ohio State
36. Jonathon Banks CB Missisippi State
37. Larry Warford G Kentucky
38. Keenen Allen WR California
39. Corey Lemoneir OLB/DE Auburn
40. Geno Smith QB West Virginia
41. Manti Teo LB Notre Dame
42. Zach Ertz TE Stanford
43. Brian Schwenke C California
44. Giovanni Bernard RB North Carolina
45. Datone Jones DE UCLA
46. Melanik Watson T Florida State
47. Gavin Escobar TE San Diego State
48. Travis Frederick G/C Wisconsin
49. Jonathon Cyprien S Florida INternational
50. Jesse Williams DT Alabama
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I like most of it.

But there is no reason on the planet that I would take Barrett Jones, even if he is healthy, ahead of Brian Schwenke.

1 is an NFL level athlete, the other has a bunch of college awards.
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I like most of it.

But there is no reason on the planet that I would take Barrett Jones, even if he is healthy, ahead of Brian Schwenke.

1 is an NFL level athlete, the other has a bunch of college awards.
I like Schwenke but Barrett Jones is a football player.
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not sure about Jarvis Jones, Kenny Vacarro and Tyler Wilson in the top 11.
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Old 04-13-2013, 08:27 PM    (permalink
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...............you have dustin hopkins in the top 20............
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...............you have dustin hopkins in the top 20............
Dost thou not worship at St. Hopkins?
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Do you seriously think Tyler Wilson is the best QB in this draft? And 11th best overall? Seriously?
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Do you seriously think Tyler Wilson is the best QB in this draft? And 11th best overall? Seriously?
His board would appear to indicate such. What happened to everyone on Wilson? Season ended and the guy was in high regard (despite a tough season), and now he's considered trash, never mentioned, and in a draft where all QB prospects have issues. I get his value has dropped, but I'm always amazed at how a guys value changes from point A to point B despite his tape remaining the same (outside of something significant medically or an arrest occurring). I'd be open to someone explaining further what has happened with Tyler Wilson. I get a little movement, but the opinions seem to be significant.

Truth be told I'm just looking for some further evaluation on Tyler Wilson. Any is appreciated.
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Old 04-14-2013, 01:06 AM    (permalink
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His board would appear to indicate such. What happened to everyone on Wilson? Season ended and the guy was in high regard (despite a tough season), and now he's considered trash, never mentioned, and in a draft where all QB prospects have issues. I get his value has dropped, but I'm always amazed at how a guys value changes from point A to point B despite his tape remaining the same (outside of something significant medically or an arrest occurring). I'd be open to someone explaining further what has happened with Tyler Wilson. I get a little movement, but the opinions seem to be significant.

Truth be told I'm just looking for some further evaluation on Tyler Wilson. Any is appreciated.
The hype train got off of Wilson and got onto Nassib and Manuel, pretty sure that's all that happened. I never considered Wilson to be worthy of a 1st round pick and got into many debates on this forum with people who were hyping him up. He's basically worse than Barkley in every way. Oddly enough I'd still take him over Nassib, I really don't get the hype on that guy he seems terrible.
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His board would appear to indicate such. What happened to everyone on Wilson? Season ended and the guy was in high regard (despite a tough season), and now he's considered trash, never mentioned, and in a draft where all QB prospects have issues. I get his value has dropped, but I'm always amazed at how a guys value changes from point A to point B despite his tape remaining the same (outside of something significant medically or an arrest occurring). I'd be open to someone explaining further what has happened with Tyler Wilson. I get a little movement, but the opinions seem to be significant.

Truth be told I'm just looking for some further evaluation on Tyler Wilson. Any is appreciated.
I knew better than to jump on the Wilson bandwagon last year. Yes, he looked very good as a junior and he was on a talent depleted team as a senior (which I predicted would go horribly), but the biggest loss for him going from junior to senior was Bobby Petrino. The guy is a QB genius. He's the scum of the earth, but he's a college offensive guru. He makes guys look great.

That was part of the reason why I was scared off of Ryan Mallett, despite believing he was one of the top 3 in terms of physical talent.
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I like most of it.

But there is no reason on the planet that I would take Barrett Jones, even if he is healthy, ahead of Brian Schwenke.

1 is an NFL level athlete, the other has a bunch of college awards.
Couldn't agree with you more on Jones, he just isn't going to have an impact at the next level.

Sure you can say he is a football player, but he isn't physically gifted enough to do the same things at the next level. Plus he has been surrounded by phenomenal football players.

I think eventually he'll end up being a career swing-man and a 6th OL for a majority of his career. Which obviously has value, but not in the same way a potential 5+ year starter does.
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Tank Carradine is going to be a stud.
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Not a fan of this ranking, not even close IMO.
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But there is no reason on the planet that I would take Barrett Jones, even if he is healthy, ahead of Brian Schwenke.
Brian Schwenke looks like he's rolling the ball to his QB instead of snapping it. He's impressive off of the snap, but he looks like a guard in the NFL.

I'm honestly not sure which player I like more as a guard.
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