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View Poll Results: First 4k/1k QB
Eagles Michael Vick 1 2.13%
Redskins Robert Griffin 12 25.53%
Panthers Cam Newton 17 36.17%
49ers Colin Kaepernick 17 36.17%
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Old 04-14-2013, 11:18 PM    (permalink
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Eagles Michael Vick
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Panthers Cam Newton
49ers Colin Kaepernick

Which Quarterback this year has the best chance to be the first
Quarterback to pass for 4,000 yards and rush for 1,000 yards.
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Vick is old and won't play the full season so no

RG3 is going to be recovering from a leg injury and I have a feeling he runs a lot less this year

Cam is an interesting option, but I don't see him getting 1000 rushing yards

Kaepernick is my pick, I think he runs it often enough and gets big runs and passing for 4,000 isn't that ridiculous for a starting QB anymore
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First off, who in the world would want their quarterback running that often. They would be exposed to more brutality than desired.

Second, Colin Kaepernick would be a poor choice even if one did want to consider who was the best candidate for the endeavor. Greg Roman's offense isn't that pass heavy as it's a run first offense. I don't expect the 49ers to be constantly playing from behind either.
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This is highly unlikely to happen. But Cam and Kaepernick have to be the top 2 on everybodys list.

Cam has thrown for over 4000 yds once before and 3800 last year, while running for 700+ both years. The problem is he'd have to get 7-8 yards per carry because I just can't see him getting enough touches to get 1000 when he's staying around the 5.6-5.8 he has thus far in his career.

Kaepernick on the other hand averaged 240 yards passing in his starts (including playoffs), and averaged 50 yards rushing a game in his starts. With that said, I could see them throwing more this season with the addition of Boldin and with the loss of Alex Smith they may be more worried about Kaepernick getting injured
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Kaep won't throw the ball enough to get to 4K yards, nor do I expect him to have to carry the ball enough times to hit 1k. Cam probably can't hit 1k on the ground either, but he'll have the ball in his hand enough to get the passing yards and if all goes to hell may hit the rushing mark as well.
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Kaepernick could do it if their defense falls off and he continues to get better.
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Newton is the one that could get closest, but it's not going to happen. ONly once has a quarterback rushed for 1,000 yards. Matching that and throwing for 4,000 isn't happening anytime soon.
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Kaep won't throw the ball enough to get to 4K yards, nor do I expect him to have to carry the ball enough times to hit 1k. Cam probably can't hit 1k on the ground either, but he'll have the ball in his hand enough to get the passing yards and if all goes to hell may hit the rushing mark as well.
In 10 starts in what was his first year, he average just over 240 yards passing a game. He only needs to average 250 a game over 16 games to hit 4000 which is really quite reasonable in today's NFL as he continues to improve as a passer.


Just for fun, if we pro-rate his last 10 starts over 16 games it comes out to. I'm not a fan of pro-rating in general but 10 of 16 games gives us a pretty good sample size, especially when 3 of those games were in the playoffs.

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Where's the Tebow option. he'll start over all QB in NY
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Newton is the only one that realistically would have a shot.
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Cam or CK. I don't think RG3 will ever again get the carries he needs to approach that mark.
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I can't stand his attitude on the field, but Cam is really the only one who has the body to withstand a 1000 yd rushing season while also having the arm to pass for 4k.

I feel disgusted touting him, but it is true.
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RG III Won't. He'll get hurt again in during that process if he doesn't change his style of play.

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It's clearly Eli. Have you seen those open field moves?
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I don't know why people are saying Cam is the most likely option. Theoretically he certainly has the tools to do it, but Chud was the big read-option guy, and he's gone. Not only is he gone, but even while he was here it got phased out due to ineffectiveness. This upcoming year expect to see Cam noticeably more. He's athletic and obviously knows it, so he'll always put up decent rushing yardage, but he won't get near enough touches to near 1000 yards.
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In 10 starts in what was his first year, he average just over 240 yards passing a game. He only needs to average 250 a game over 16 games to hit 4000 which is really quite reasonable in today's NFL as he continues to improve as a passer.


Just for fun, if we pro-rate his last 10 starts over 16 games it comes out to. I'm not a fan of pro-rating in general but 10 of 16 games gives us a pretty good sample size, especially when 3 of those games were in the playoffs.

3850 passing
828 rushing
Yeah, but his rushing yardage is heavily skewed by his 181 yard performance against Green Bay; a performance he is not likely to repeat. In his other nine starts he averaged only 35.7 ypg. He'd have to nearly double his rushing output or put up another one or two record games to even have a chance at 1,000 yards.
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