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Old 04-19-2013, 03:31 PM    (permalink
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I'll remind you that we WHOOPED YOUR ASS twice and that you were too stupid to know what you had in Gannon. Thanks.
26 to 16 and 17 to 0. Such crushing defeats. And it's pretty ridiculous to boast about victories when your team had a whole 4 of them.

I love Raiders homers. They're so awful that it wraps around back to being awesome. Keep on keepin on buddy.
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He's gonna be so upset when the Raiders draft Floyd.
Correct, but it's not going to happen and I'll tell you all about it for all eternity.
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Old 04-19-2013, 03:36 PM    (permalink
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26 to 16 and 17 to 0. Such crushing defeats. And it's pretty ridiculous to boast about victories when your team had a whole 4 of them.

I love Raiders homers. They're so awful that it wraps around back to being awesome. Keep on keepin on buddy.
It's far more ridiculoud for you to talk cash $hit about a bad team that beat you twice by double digits. Someone should point that out to you. Likewise, we had twice as many wins as you. We have three times as many Lombardis as you and 3000 times as many fans. We have the best unis in sports and you all look like night crew at a no name hotdog joint. What else ya got, buddy?
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The Raiders' jerseys are the best unis in sports? i guess the name Floyd on the back of them won't make them look any better than best
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The Raiders' jerseys are the best unis in sports? i guess the name Floyd on the back of them won't make them look any better than best
Correct. But the continued lack of run stopping won't look too nice.
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Mayock has Floyd as the 2nd best player in the draft! Jeremiah brain wahsed him!
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Correct. But the continued lack of run stopping won't look too nice.
you act as if you have this amazing defense that only lacks a presence in the middle for run plays. Your entire roster sucks outside your LT, C, and K.
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The Raiders and Chiefs both suck, and nobody is envious of either team.
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I think we are too hard on the guys hired to be scouts for NFL.com or even the ex GM's. Pro teams use a # of scouts to give feedback on prospects and it is never just one guys opinion that decides who a team will draft. Each scout in an organization builds up credibility over years with his GM and then most GM's go over the film as well and attend most of the post season events.

We see Mayock, DJ, Davis etc. all give their opinions and question each, but on a real team their opinions alone would decide a team's draft board and on draft day, each scout would be asked to sell the GM on why that team should pick player 'A' vs player 'B', then the GM decides which point of view he will follow.

Finally, we haven't a clue to what directions these guys get from their bosses at NFL.com, after all, it is a TV program they both work for. Initially Mayock may have had a lot more freedom in earlier days to state his opinions on prospects before the network was really aware of what it was doing, Mayock also wasn't encumbered by having another job as a TV announcer.

For all we know today, NFL.com may instruct Mayock to do a Kiper and change his rankings to keep up interest in the program so they can attract viewers and therefore sell more advertising, after all, it is a business which equals money which equals doing what you are told.

I think we all know that draft boards are pretty well set at this stage and if the NFL wanted, they could give a ranking that would really affect draft day decisions, but that would effect their TV ratings and cost them money, so we just have to put up with the crap they are trying to sell now. All I know is that just before the draft day, they will put out their final grades which will reflect their true grades but until then, all bets are off.
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A Raiders fan and a Chiefs fan arguing about who's more awesome?

At what? Getting the first overall pick?

Seriously, it's like watching a Downs syndrome kid fighting a Thalomid baby.
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you act as if you have this amazing defense that only lacks a presence in the middle for run plays. Your entire roster sucks outside your LT, C, and K.
Hey there. Can we at least show Tyvon Branch some love...?
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I haven't argued that the Chiefs are awesome. They're complete crap. But they have a hell of a lot more talent than the Raiders and I'll argue that to death. I'm way too stubborn to give up on that.

And he brought up beating the Chiefs twice last year, as if that matters at all.
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True enough Vidae.

And I'd concur. That Raiders team looks like it'll be 2020 before they climb out of the bottom 10. It is ridiculously close to being a first year expansion team as far as talent goes.
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I haven't argued that the Chiefs are awesome. They're complete crap. But they have a hell of a lot more talent than the Raiders and I'll argue that to death. I'm way too stubborn to give up on that.

And he brought up beating the Chiefs twice last year, as if that matters at all.
UM, the score board doesn't take your sense of talent into account, it takes the final score into account. Continue to talk about our lack of talent so I can remind you that our talentless team beat you pro bowl laden team by double digits twice.
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True enough Vidae.

And I'd concur. That Raiders team looks like it'll be 2020 before they climb out of the bottom 10. It is ridiculously close to being a first year expansion team as far as talent goes.
Yeah, only an idiot would actually believe that. We have already improved our franchise by leaps and bounds by inserting and actual organizational structure. Next year we have 70 mil and a full array of draft picks for Reggie to do his magic. So go ahead and take all the shots you want, we are on the come up, kid.
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UM, the score board doesn't take your sense of talent into account, it takes the final score into account. Continue to talk about our lack of talent so I can remind you that our talentless team beat you pro bowl laden team by double digits twice.
Congratulations on those two meaningless wins last year that have absolutely no bearing on anything anymore except the draft order.
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A Raiders fan and a Chiefs fan arguing about who's more awesome?

At what? Getting the first overall pick?

Seriously, it's like watching a Downs syndrome kid fighting a Thalomid baby.
At least we have the balls to mention our teams in public.
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Congratulations on those two meaningless wins last year that have absolutely no bearing on anything anymore except the draft order.
Don't try to come off like those ass whoopins didn't burn. You probably called in sick both times. Tell the people our dirty little secret. It's not just two meaningless wins. Your "super talented" team has lost 5 of the last 6 to the silver and black. Congratulation on your success.
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I think Floyd is pretty darn good. He's not even 21 yet, he has some growing to do but by the time he's 25, he could be one of the elite players in the NFL at his position.
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I haven't argued that the Chiefs are awesome. They're complete crap. But they have a hell of a lot more talent than the Raiders and I'll argue that to death. I'm way too stubborn to give up on that.

And he brought up beating the Chiefs twice last year, as if that matters at all.
The Saskatchewan Rough Riders have more talent than the Raiders. They make the Jets look like the '86 Bears.
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The Saskatchewan Rough Riders have more talent than the Raiders. They make the Jets look like the '86 Bears.
Your point? We had enough talent to beat the KC hicks 5 out of the last 6. You a KC fan or something?
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Your point? We had enough talent to beat the KC hicks 5 out of the last 6. You a KC fan or something?
Are you even a Raiders fan? You do realize you don't have 9 of your 11 starters on D from last year, and are going from Carson Palmer to a POS 3rd stringer in Matt Flynn... right?
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Your point? We had enough talent to beat the KC hicks 5 out of the last 6. You a KC fan or something?
If only beating one of your three division rivals was a way to make some noise in the NFL, but since it isn't, the Raiders will still be an afterthought like every other year.

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Are you even a Raiders fan? You do realize you don't have 9 of your 11 starters on D from last year, and are going from Carson Palmer to a POS 3rd stringer in Matt Flynn... right?
Nah, Matt Flynn is the answer in Oakland, so he's set. Once they draft Floyd, watch out for that D too. Championship!
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