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Old 04-19-2013, 08:52 PM    (permalink
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If only beating one of your three division rivals was a way to make some noise in the NFL, but since it isn't, the Raiders will still be an afterthought like every other year.



Nah, Matt Flynn is the answer in Oakland, so he's set. Once they draft Floyd, watch out for that D too. Championship!
If only we could play the Chiefs 16 times.
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Nothing like setting yourself up for a major letdown on both fronts, the draft and the regular season. Sharrif Floyd to the Raiders, worst record in the league this season, are both highly likely. The bright spot is that you have your pick between Jadeveon Clowney and Teddy Bridgewater next draft, so there's that. As a Jets fan I have to worry about Rex Ryan actually coaching his way to 6 wins even with a crap roster.
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Hey now, Matt Flynn is a very good third stringer!
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Nothing like setting yourself up for a major letdown on both fronts, the draft and the regular season. Sharrif Floyd to the Raiders, worst record in the league this season, are both highly likely. The bright spot is that you have your pick between Jadeveon Clowney and Teddy Bridgewater next draft, so there's that. As a Jets fan I have to worry about Rex Ryan actually coaching his way to 6 wins even with a crap roster.
I'm setting myself up? Hmm, interesting. I'm not sure if you are suggesting you have inside information or not. All I can tell you as a die hard Raiders fan since 1981 is I haven't heard or seen anything that would indicate the Raiders interest in Floyd. I have heard that the Raiders value DE over DT early in the draft. Also, John Clayton reported that if we can't trade down, the pick will be offensive line. I also don't see Floyd as the type of DT we need that can play in multiple fronts and Lotulelei would be a better fit. I'm just not that worried we will pick Floyd simply because he appears in mock drafts.
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RT @MoveTheSticks: FWIW... Lot of buzz about Oak taking a LT with #3 pick. Floyd could take a tumble if that happens.


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I'm setting myself up? Hmm, interesting. I'm not sure if you are suggesting you have inside information or not. All I can tell you as a die hard Raiders fan since 1981 is I haven't heard or seen anything that would indicate the Raiders interest in Floyd. I have heard that the Raiders value DE over DT early in the draft. Also, John Clayton reported that if we can't trade down, the pick will be offensive line. I also don't see Floyd as the type of DT we need that can play in multiple fronts and Lotulelei would be a better fit. I'm just not that worried we will pick Floyd simply because he appears in mock drafts.
How did I suggest I have inside information? Sharrif Floyd is considered a top5-10 prospect, your teams picks in that range and his position is a need. Considering those facts, Floyd to Raiders has at least a 20% chance of happening, which in terms of the draft is a huge percentage thus my use of the word 'likely' to describe it. Considering how adamant you are about this, I say you're setting yourself up to be disappointed. You also seem to be delusional about your team's chances of winning more than 5 games next season.
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How did I suggest I have inside information? Sharrif Floyd is considered a top5-10 prospect, your teams picks in that range and his position is a need. Considering those facts, Floyd to Raiders has at least a 20% chance of happening, which in terms of the draft is a huge percentage thus my use of the word 'likely' to describe it. Considering how adamant you are about this, I say you're setting yourself up to be disappointed. You also seem to be delusional about your team's chances of winning more than 5 games next season.
How the hell is 20% considered "likely?" And when you say "considered", it doesn't matter what most how most people rank a given player, it matters how the team in question ranks the player. I'm telling you I have heard NOTHING from the Raiders camp about this guy, but I have heard about other prospects. That's why I asked you if you had insider information. Your claim is completely baseless.
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FWIW... Lot of buzz about Oak taking a LT with #3 pick. Floyd could take a tumble if that happens.

How's that Jeremiah? I thought he was a consensus "top five prospect?" Why would he take a fall?? This pretty much proves that he was only talking about the possibility of the Raiders taking him high, not anyone else. He is trying to clean up his lies. Thank you, and good night.
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Oh shut up Shane, you're just protecting your fellow draft guy!
Looks like it from where I am sitting. Hey, since he is a top five can't miss prospect, maybe the Chiefs will draft him to replace Dorsey's suckiness.
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Looks like it from where I am sitting. Hey, since he is a top five can't miss prospect, maybe the Chiefs will draft him to replace Dorsey's suckiness.
Hey, hey now. Dorsey has been overall decent as he has played out of position his whole time in KC. He has not even been close to Tyson Jackson suckiness.

I just loved Dorsey so much coming out of LSU. Still do. Ahhhh
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Dorsey has been overall decent as he has played out of position his whole time in KC.
and yet he chose to play DE for another 3-4 team in SF.

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He has not even been close to Tyson Jackson suckiness.

I just loved Dorsey so much coming out of LSU. Still do. Ahhhh
they have both been tremendous dissapointments as top 5 picks, and not impact players.
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Hey, hey now. Dorsey has been overall decent as he has played out of position his whole time in KC. He has not even been close to Tyson Jackson suckiness.

I just loved Dorsey so much coming out of LSU. Still do. Ahhhh
Hence my comparison to Floyd and his lack of versatility. By the way, Dorsey is in his SECOND 3-4 defense, so perhaps he just sucks (for a top ten pick).
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Hence my comparison to Floyd and his lack of versatility. By the way, Dorsey is in his SECOND 3-4 defense, so perhaps he just sucks (for a top ten pick).
Yes, I hate that he signed with SF.
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A Raiders fan talking about top 10 suckiness. Hilarious, considering you guys drafted the biggest bust in the history of the NFL. You don't have a leg to stand on here.
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Hence my comparison to Floyd and his lack of versatility. By the way, Dorsey is in his SECOND 3-4 defense, so perhaps he just sucks (for a top ten pick).
Yes. He does. He was damaged goods coming into the NFL and his pro day numbers very clearly indicated that he'd never be an impact player in the NFL.

But he was drafted high because of filmzzzz.
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This Oak/KC back & forth -- you guys know you're not on the team, right? "We" lol
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A Raiders fan talking about top 10 suckiness. Hilarious, considering you guys drafted the biggest bust in the history of the NFL. You don't have a leg to stand on here.
Stand on the worst record in football.
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Raiders got rid of the qb that carried them to 4 wins, how do you think they'll fare this year with a far inferior qb and an even worse defense (somehow)? I'd bet my house if I got even close to even money on the Chiefs having a better 2013 record than the Raiders.
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Try this out black bolt:

How many positions can you honestly say the Raiders are better than the Chiefs at? I count 2... K and LDE. Can be generous and throw in FB too although that's by default don't think the Chiefs really have a FB right now.
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Raiders fan talking crap? Give me a break.. they will be a 2-14 team next year. Dorsey should be playing in a 4-3, however San Fransisco doesn't only run 3-4 like KC did with Grandpa Romeo in charge.
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Try this out black bolt:

How many positions can you honestly say the Raiders are better than the Chiefs at? I count 2... K and LDE. Can be generous and throw in FB too although that's by default don't think the Chiefs really have a FB right now.
Why would I care about that? The fact of the matter is, we have beaten them 5 of the last 6 times we played them. Maybe we scare them or something. To answer the question, not many, but I'd say LT, C and FB.
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Bucs Fan Talking ****?????


Dude, did you forget the infant fecal matter that is your franchise?
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Raiders got rid of the qb that carried them to 4 wins, how do you think they'll fare this year with a far inferior qb and an even worse defense (somehow)? I'd bet my house if I got even close to even money on the Chiefs having a better 2013 record than the Raiders.
Carried us? Are you freaking mad? Carson Palmer was pure garbage with us. He couldn't carry a bag of groceries from his car to his front door. Try watching some games. Besides, two of the wins were against the minor league Chefs.
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Bucs Fan Talking ****?????


Dude, did you forget the infant fecal matter that is your franchise?
Your Raider Homer shtick is really getting old.
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