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Old 04-22-2013, 08:15 PM    (permalink
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Ugh.

I want to read the books, but the experience of the show without knowing what's going to happen is just too fun.

My friend read all the books so I hate talking to him about it. Just knowing that he knows what's going to happen - I hate his reactions to what I say about it because any comment he makes - I know he already knows what's going to happen.

So Cigaro, get out of the thread.
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Now here's my thing... How do you know how to spell their names?

Reading anything on the internet about them is extremely risky, and burned me in season 1 because it's littered with people who love spoiling for no good reason.
It's a wiki that details every little thing about the show. I like to reference it when I forget little details about the plot, characters, families...etc. I'm pretty sure its strictly show stuff.
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http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/...f_Thrones_Wiki

It's a wiki to details every little thing about the show. I like to reference it when I forget little details about the plot, characters, families...etc. I'm pretty sure its strictly show stuff.
Yea I'm not clicking that lol.
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It calls itself "...an encyclopedic guide to the HBO television series Game of Thrones that anyone can edit. Our content is up to date with the latest aired episode so beware of unwanted plot details if you are not."

I'll take it down if people are uncomfortable with it though.

edit- I took down the link to be super safe, but I'll just make people aware that there is a wiki that contains extremely thorough plot summaries of each episode if you are interested.
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Old 04-22-2013, 08:42 PM    (permalink
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It calls itself "...an encyclopedic guide to the HBO television series Game of Thrones that anyone can edit. Our content is up to date with the latest aired episode so beware of unwanted plot details if you are not."

I'll take it down if people are uncomfortable with it though.
It is certainly a TV viewers' only wiki. That being said, it will cite things such as viewer guides, which are obviously intended for TV watchers, even if not explicitly shown. So it simply depends on how fickle the watcher it.
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Damn that ep was awesome. Finally starting to get to the juicy parts of all the storylines

theon got trolled hard that poor bastard
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Now here's my thing... How do you know how to spell their names?

Reading anything on the internet about them is extremely risky, and burned me in season 1 because it's littered with people who love spoiling for no good reason.

IMDb.com. just don't go to the forums.
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Not spoilers just large.

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I read the first book, but I'm not going to read to get ahead of the show. It's just too much fun to watch.
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It really was. Only time I've liked him so far.
What in hell is wrong with you. Lord Varys is one of the best characters of this show. Possibly my favorite.
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Just caught up.

Badass episode all around.

- It was kind of predictable what Dany was going to do, but it was still awesome.
- I wanted Mormont to strangle that idiot and maybe take a couple of others before he died.
- So Hound will fight Dondarion?
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The Hound vs. Dondarion fight should be goooooood
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Mormont could make a heck of a white walker.
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So I just texted my friend this:

Danerus has three dragons, a huge army that loves her, two veteran warriors with playoff experience, a good secretary, and is one of the few characters with any morals... she's easily the favorite in this war.

Danerus -550
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Her army is actually tiny... like 8000 or something. From memory Robb had like 20,000 and the Lannisters had like 5x as many troops (at least), but Dragons and boobs so deserved favourite.

Do think you are missing the king north of the wall and his massive army though!
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Finally watched the episode last night. I want Emilia Clarke to sit on my face and never get up.
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Tyrion and Bronn have Podrick also, so...
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It gets a bit confusing since they mostly talk army sizes in relative terms, have discrepancies in what they say and its impossible to count how many people die in the various battles.

From what I can tell:

Lannisters: Jamie had around 30k and Tywin had around 30k, I'd assume some of Jamie's made it back to Tywin after he lost in the Whispering Wood, and they've gained some through freeriders along the way.

Estimate: 50,000.

Robb: I think the 20k is right, he had around 22k total and sent a feint force of 2k to meet Tywin in battle. I think they all got slaughtered, so that leaves 20k left.

Estimate: 20,000

Tyrells: Renly says something along the lines of his force being 100k strong, which includes the Stormlands and the Tyrells. Most Barratheon followers go to Stannis, but I think the split is like 70/30 Tyrell/Barratheon

Estimate: 70,000

Stannis: Only had like 5k men + Saan's ships. But gained 30k men after he killed Renly. He was slaughtered in King's Landing though, so he's got be damn close to that original number again

Estimate: 5,000

Daenerys: She just bought 8,000 unsullied, plus all the green boys (I think around 4,000?), plus what is left of the khalasar (I'd say 500 fighting men at most, probably a lot less). Plus her 3 dragons of course.

Estimate: 10,000 fighting men, 3 dragons.


The books explain this a little better (and with much different numbers) but I only used what has been said in the show to make my estimates.
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Lanninster's force has to be larger then that.

Doesn't Kings Landing have their own army? That is under control of Tywin now also.
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Doesn't Kings Landing have their own army? That is under control of Tywin now also.
I don't think they have an army. They have the City Watch and Kings Guard I believe and that might be it.
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It has to be more then Stannis, at least.

Plus Robb had 20,000 Northmen only. He has Riverrun on his side now too.
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Well Kings Landing was losing till Tywin and the Tyrells came, so I wouldn't be surprised if they only had the ~5,000 of the City Watch and sellswords Tyrion hired.

I think you are right on Robb's I'm not sure how many Riverrun brings though, ~10,000?
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Yeah, Dany needs to go back and get the rest of the Dothraki before she poses a huge threat.
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Yeah, Dany needs to go back and get the rest of the Dothraki before she poses a huge threat.
I'm pretty sure that the last living targaerian leading an army with 3 dragons around her would get a lot of people joining her side as she roams the land.
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Her army is actually tiny... like 8000 or something. From memory Robb had like 20,000 and the Lannisters had like 5x as many troops (at least), but Dragons and boobs so deserved favourite.

Do think you are missing the king north of the wall and his massive army though!
Aren't they just fighting "for the living?" They don't want the throne.
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