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Old 04-23-2013, 01:22 PM    (permalink
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Aren't they just fighting "for the living?" They don't want the throne.
Yeah but they wanna go south, and what lies south of the wall is the north and then king's landing. So just like Dany would eventually become a threat to Robb so is Mance an eventual threat to everyone south of the wall.
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I bet there are plenty of Houses in the 7 Kingdoms that might follow Dany.

Robert said it himself in the 1st season that not everyone was happy that he won.

I bet plenty of people think that Targaryans are the rightful rulers.
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I bet there are plenty of Houses in the 7 Kingdoms that might follow Dany.

Robert said it himself in the 1st season that not everyone was happy that he won.

I bet plenty of people think that Targaryans are the rightful rulers.
And when the girl who escaped shows up with an army and 3 dragons, how many do you think would just pledge to her even if they didn't think she was the rightful ruler?
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dragons are a game changer, thats how her ancestors conquered westeros.
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I believe Selmy also said that in his travels to Astapor he met people who would still pledge their allegiance to the the Targareyans.
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**** could get very very real once the White Walkers start making moves
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Can the white walkers survive outside of cold?
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Yeah I believe they can as long as no one lights them on fire.
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How do people North of the Wall survive?

You can freeze to death there during Summer, what the hell do you do during Winter?
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How do people North of the Wall survive?

You can freeze to death there during Summer, what the hell do you do during Winter?
Move south?
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You can freeze to death there during Summer, what the hell do you do during Winter?
Igloos and fires and stuff.

I'm more concerned with what they eat than how they stay warm
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Plus there's apparently all of the **** you could want for you to burn to keep warm.
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On the subject of armies, didn't Robb also lose a bunch of men when he decided to get married with whatsherface instead of the crazy old man's daughter?
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I don't remember them saying he lost support, but I'm sure it'll come back into play down the line.
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I don't know if he lost support, but I think marrying the crazy dude's daughter was supposed to be a beneficial move politically. So I guess he spurned that opportunity by marrying the nurse chick.
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I dont think marrying that chick was so much an issue of losing a number of troops, but instead an issue of losing face because he went against his word. Clearly some of his bannermen have lost respect for him and are questioning his judgement.

Also, if we are talking about troop numbers, I'm pretty sure there is no way that Rob got a ton of troops from Riverrun. I remember some guy saying that going to rivverun was a waste because they weren't going there to fight and there weren't enough troops there to make much of a difference.
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Yeah but they wanna go south, and what lies south of the wall is the north and then king's landing. So just like Dany would eventually become a threat to Robb so is Mance an eventual threat to everyone south of the wall.
What lies directly south of the wall is "The Gift" this is territory given to the nights watch. You can directly follow the Kings Road to Winterfell. George R.R. Martin has gone on the record saying that Westeros is about 3,000 miles from the wall to the southern coast of Dorne. So the Wall to Winterfell is like 500-750 miles. Another few hundred mile to get to Moat Cailin, and then another 100 miles or so to get to Greywater watch. You would now be leaving the north. Keep on following the Kings Road to the left of the Green Fork (you are in the Riverlands now.) until you get to the general area of the Trident (about 500-750 miles from Greywater Watch). There will be a fork in the road. If you go West you are traveling the River Road to Casterly Rock and Lannisport. Go East and you are traveling the High Road to The Bloody Gate which will get you to the Eyrie. If you continue to follow the Kings Road south for another 500 miles you will make it to Kings Landing.

These are estimates and it is about 2000 miles from the Wall to King's Landing. That is how far an army beyond the wall would have to march if they wanted to take Kings Landing.
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And when their other option is stay and fighting snow-zombies I'm pretty sure they'll still pick that.
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Speaking of Dorne, I believe they are the only one of the 7 Kingdoms that hasn't been featured in the series.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I only remember them being mentioned. They haven't been involved with anything.
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oh I won't disagree with that and I wasn't disagreeing with what was said earlier. Just wanted to show the degree of the distance they are willing to travel to get away from all those snow zombies.
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Originally Posted by MaxV View Post
Speaking of Dorne, I believe they are the only one of the 7 Kingdoms that hasn't been featured in the series.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I only remember them being mentioned. They haven't been involved with anything.
they will show up next season

this series/books have so many great characters...
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