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I'd just like to point out that the Buccaneers gave up less for Darrelle Revis than the Miami Dolphins gave up for Dion Jordan.
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Kawann Short, anybody? If not him... Jesse Williams... maybe Brandon Williams after a trade down. No interest in slow twitch Hankins.
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Kawann Short, anybody? If not him... Jesse Williams... maybe Brandon Williams after a trade down. No interest in slow twitch Hankins.
Short should be one of the top guys left if he is still available. I like Bennie Logan in the fourth if we don't take a DT in the 2nd.
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The Bucs need to make a play for Moore here. The guy gets to the QB!
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Mike Glennon!!! You want a guy that doesn't throw picks and you take Glennon!!!!!!!
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I'm so upset with the picks today. Banks and Glennon! Come on Bucs! We need D Linemen.
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Mike Glennon!!! You want a guy that doesn't throw picks and you take Glennon!!!!!!!


I'm not saying I liked Glennon over Nassib and Wilson but I did call a QB in rounds 2 or 3.

This shows freeman he better get his crap together.
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I'm so upset with the picks today. Banks and Glennon! Come on Bucs! We need D Linemen.


I agree but you got to let your guys develop in Clayborn and bowers.

Banks is good value at 43.
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The Bucs need to come out of rounds 4-5 with two D linemen.

Jesse Williams
Alex Okafor
Cornelius Washington
Khaseem Greene ( Not a Dlinemen but a stud )
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Are you guys seriously upset with Banks? Let him learn from Revis for a year while Wright starts, then send the latter packing when he contract is up at the end of the season.

Next year we'll start two big, physical corners in Revis and Banks with Leonard Johnson as the nickel back. Looks pretty damn good to me.

As for Glennon, I'm not thrilled with the pick, but I don't hate it. I just remind myself that we got Revis... And, frankly, Freeman could use a shot across the bow. Put up or get the hell out.

At least we didn't take Barkley...
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Remember when I said we would take a QB on day 2?.........
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Are you guys seriously upset with Banks? Let him learn from Revis for a year while Wright starts, then send the latter packing when he contract is up at the end of the season.

Next year we'll start two big, physical corners in Revis and Banks with Leonard Johnson as the nickel back. Looks pretty damn good to me.

As for Glennon, I'm not thrilled with the pick, but I don't hate it. I just remind myself that we got Revis... And, frankly, Freeman could use a shot across the bow. Put up or get the hell out.

At least we didn't take Barkley...
I like the Banks pick. This allows Wright to play the slot as he'd match up much better there. To me, Banks has the skill set of Aqib Talib, a ball hawk, but more discipline.

Glennon was an OK pick. I don't hate it, but don't love it. I'm ok with it. I'd rather of gone Tyler Wilson. Good pocket presence, and just seems to have it. Glennon is more of the quieter side, but I'll say this, his film is extremely good. He'll be the back up and can develop into something long term. If this doesn't motivate Josh to take the next step, then obviously he's not a franchise QB. I'm hoping Josh does improve and become more consistent.
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Akeem Spence for NT when Jessie Williams was still available? I don't much about this guy can someone enlighten me
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Eric Stokes all over it. Spence is very good against the run but has a lot of upside as a pass rusher as well. This could be a very good value. Good athlete and strong.
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Spence blows. Hated the pick. He's played on loaded DLs for years and has done little.

Two seasons ago he was paired with Corey Liuget, and sandwiched between Whitney Mercilius and Michael Buchanan...He's got something like 3 career sacks. We gave sackless Roy Miller away and didn't upgrade at all.
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I heard Jesse Williams may have a bum knee.
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William Ghostan!?! Not a fan personally, he seems more like a 3-4 DE than one for our system. No explosion. Maybe he can go inside on passing downs though.
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Strengthening the dline. Good job dom. I like these 2 picks. Gholston has 1st round talent. Needs to put it together consistently. Spence is a NT. Our dline doesn't require pass rush specialist next to McCoy. Only to eat up blocks.

Overall, I like that we are building depth because we weren't deep in the secondary and dline last year. Now, it seems we strengthened both.
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Strengthening the dline. Good job dom. I like these 2 picks. Gholston has 1st round talent. Needs to put it together consistently. Spence is a NT. Our dline doesn't require pass rush specialist next to McCoy. Only to eat up blocks.

Overall, I like that we are building depth because we weren't deep in the secondary and dline last year. Now, it seems we strengthened both.
I agree we should strengthen our DLine but if I am not mistaken we were near the bottom of the league in sacks. It wasn't like all the QB's we played against mostly ran 3 step drops. We could have got some explosive guys at least. At least if we put Gholston in the middle he can bat some passes with his long arms.
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I agree we should strengthen our DLine but if I am not mistaken we were near the bottom of the league in sacks. It wasn't like all the QB's we played against mostly ran 3 step drops. We could have got some explosive guys at least. At least if we put Gholston in the middle he can bat some passes with his long arms.
What we didn't have last year was guys who can come in and spell our starters along the dline. I think we've added that so we don't have to play our dlineman tht much. Our starters ranked 1st in snaps played. Gotta keep te big guys fresh ya know. ?
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What we didn't have last year was guys who can come in and spell our starters along the dline. I think we've added that so we don't have to play our dlineman tht much. Our starters ranked 1st in snaps played. Gotta keep te big guys fresh ya know. ?
Understandable. I like this kid from Buffalo we just drafted, he might be a sleeper off the edge coming from a 3-4 OLB background.
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Understandable. I like this kid from Buffalo we just drafted, he might be a sleeper off the edge.
To be honest don't know much about him. I do know he's an edge rusher. We like yo run those 3 DL formations. Maybe we ca line him up as a staf up pash rusher in this sub packages.
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I really don't like anything we did in this draft.

Johnthan Banks- The only pick I like. Big, Strong DB. Looks faster on tape than what he ran in Indy. At worst I think he's a second CB. Which is what we need he to be.

Mike Glennon- I really hate this pick. I understand you need to get a QB to push Freeman, but we had huge holes on the D line when this pick came around. Also he has the same knocks as Free. Throws picks, Accuracy and snowball into multiple mistakes.

Akeem Spence- So we go to fill the D line holes. We could have had Okafor here or Jesse Williams who are better players than Spence. Okafor had more sacks than this guy in one bowl game. And Williams is a Toughness/Motor player.

William Gholston- I get the pick. Boom or Bust right here. The guy could turn into a very good NFL player. Has everything you like from a power DE. Just doesn't like to give it his all.

Steven Means- Could become a pass rusher.... Why not take Brandon Jenkins from FSU who was a very good pass rusher until he broke his foot.

Mike James- We could have taken a shot on Marquess Wilson. The guy was a good WR before leaving his football team.
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Understandable. I like this kid from Buffalo we just drafted, he might be a sleeper off the edge coming from a 3-4 OLB background.
He was a 4-3 DE in college.
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Strengthening the dline. Good job dom. I like these 2 picks. Gholston has 1st round talent. Needs to put it together consistently. Spence is a NT. Our dline doesn't require pass rush specialist next to McCoy. Only to eat up blocks.

Overall, I like that we are building depth because we weren't deep in the secondary and dline last year. Now, it seems we strengthened both.
We failed to demonstrate ANY kind of pass rush in multiple games last season (Denver, Giants, to name a couple). We do NEED a pass rusher next to McCoy otherwise there will be no reason to double team anybody, including McCoy. Double teams are reserved for players that cause havoc... and if like in the Giants and Broncos games, our front four is causing ZERO havoc, there will be no reason to double anybody.
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