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Old 03-02-2010, 02:35 AM    (permalink
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As I indicated, I think the chance that Griffen rates higher is better than the chance that Graham rates higher, but looking at the three player's measurements, I wouldn't discount the idea.

Jason Pierre-Paul - 6'5" / 270 / 4.64(u) / 19 reps
Everson Griffen - 6'3" / 273 / 4.66 / 32 reps
Brandon Graham - 6'1" / 268 / 4.72 / 31 reps
I looked at the Raiders depth chart and they had Trevor Scott listed as a OLB. I could of sworn he was a DE. I remember him being one of the most productive rookie DE's when he came out.

Again, I think its unlikely that the Raiders take Graham. Not trying to make Al Davis jokes here but the organization definitely puts a premium on measurables when evaluating draft prospects. Graham's physical tools do not put him in the top 10. Though personally I feel his film puts him as one of the ten best players in the draft. Although I feel it is quite unlikely, I would still LOVE to see him in the silver and black.
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I looked at the Raiders depth chart and they had Trevor Scott listed as a OLB. I could of sworn he was a DE. I remember him being one of the most productive rookie DE's when he came out.
He was a DE, but he got moved to linebacker and quite successfully played a sort of Elephant position down the stretch. He's likely made the position change permanently considering the state of Oakland's linebacking corps.

As for Graham, I don't feel his measurables are that far behind Griffen's, even though Griffen seems like an easier projection for Oakland. Either way, I think Pierre-Paul could wind up being 3rd on Oakland's list of DE's.
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He was a DE, but he got moved to linebacker and quite successfully played a sort of Elephant position down the stretch. He's likely made the position change permanently considering the state of Oakland's linebacking corps.
And considering the state of Oakland's LB corps, would Rolando McClain be a realistic option. I know a lot of Raider fans are really down on Morrison though it seems unlikely that his play has been bad enough to warrant taking a replacement. Though Rolando is a guy who can be a rock in the middle of a defense, a defense that has struggled for years to stop the run.
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Simple put, at #8, McClain is no kind of option. At best, I think he winds up going #15 to the Giants, but it would take something really amazing for Al Davis to go linebacker in the first. McClain falls short of that mark.

I wouldn't necessarily rule out the Raiders drafting a replacement for Howard in the 2nd or 3rd round though.
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Simple put, at #8, McClain is no kind of option. At best, I think he winds up going #15 to the Giants, but it would take something really amazing for Al Davis to go linebacker in the first. McClain falls short of that mark.

I wouldn't necessarily rule out the Raiders drafting a replacement for Howard in the 2nd or 3rd round though.
Other than McCoy and Suh, who would you think would be the #1 player on the Raiders draft board.
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I'm pretty sure Al Davis still has a sour taste in his mouth with regards to OTs from Iowa.
Considering the insight Joe Montana's career had in the prediciton of the stellar NFL career Rick Mirer had, one can see Al's logical thinking processes are still sharp as ever, if this is a tought of his....
My question is any chance the dont pick in the top 20 for the next decade??
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Simple put, at #8, McClain is no kind of option. At best, I think he winds up going #15 to the Giants, but it would take something really amazing for Al Davis to go linebacker in the first. McClain falls short of that mark.

I wouldn't necessarily rule out the Raiders drafting a replacement for Howard in the 2nd or 3rd round though.
McClain's refusal to participate in any drills yesterday should pretty much guarantee he won't end up a Raider.
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McClain's refusal to participate in any drills yesterday should pretty much guarantee he won't end up a Raider.

Seems worth it to me.
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Seems worth it to me.
lol. Maybe Mclain is smarter than the rest of the top 10-12 propects.
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McClain's refusal to participate in any drills yesterday should pretty much guarantee he won't end up a Raider.
It was decided long before that. If I recall, Davis has drafted two first round linebacker in 45 years. Besides, even though the team could upgrade from Morrison, I think the organization is pretty comfortable with him for the time being.

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Interesting question. Honestly, I don't know what position the Raiders feel needs addressing given the talent that could be there. They need a cornerback to replace Chris Johnson opposite Asomugha, they either need an DT to replace Kelly, or if they intend on playing Seymour more inside they need a DE. They could also use an offensive tackle whether they intend on replacing Henderson or not, but probably wouldn't go in that direction if they felt they were only drafting a RT.

For cornerback, Haden is of course a possibility, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if they took Eric Berry should he slip by Cleveland with the intention of having the option of either playing him at FS or having him change to a cornerback. It would be a very Al Davis move. For defensive line, I think you have to look at the trio of Pierre-Paul/Griffen/Graham at defensive end and Price/Williams at DT. I think Griffen or Pierre-Paul are the most likely at DE, while Price is a realistic possibility at DT. As for Offensive Tackle, who knows who'll even be there to pick? I'm anticipating that we could very well see three straight tackles go from picks 4-6, probably leaving the Raiders with a choice between Trent Williams and Bruce Campbell. I think they could very well draft either, but I think they wind up going defense.
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This guy's name just came up in a discussion I had with somebody about "talented but raw" offensive line prospects.

This guy looked like Tarzan on steroids.

What the hell has happened to him in 3 years?
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I don't know what Campbell is doing or if he's even in the NFL, but when they drafted Menelik Watson in round 2 I thought, "That's such a cliched Raiders pick I wouldn't believe it if it were in a Mock Draft."

I don't know why NFL teams insist on drafting projects (Watson and Campbell were major projects) along the offensive line so high in the draft (Capmbell fell further than expected and was considered 'good value'... whatever that means the day after the draft).

I understand Watson has a lot of potential, but he has no actualy ability right now. He looks like a 6th round project on tape. But people are talking about him playing LT when he hasn't even shown the ability to play RT. He's a wasted 2nd round pick. Bruce Campbell was similar to Watson. Just bigger with more experience (and tape that was worse than a guy who just started playing football and has no idea what he's doing).
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This guy looked like Tarzan on steroids.

What the hell has happened to him in 3 years?
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Brain damage from a car falling on his head is my guess.
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Simple put, at #8, McClain is no kind of option. At best, I think he winds up going #15 to the Giants, but it would take something really amazing for Al Davis to go linebacker in the first. McClain falls short of that mark.

I wouldn't necessarily rule out the Raiders drafting a replacement for Howard in the 2nd or 3rd round though.
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