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Old 04-29-2013, 01:50 PM    (permalink
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Which player represents the best value in any round for your particular team? Take into account not just the player's rating, but the fit with the team. For instance, Ryan Nassib may or may not be a great value to in the 4th to the Giants depending on where you had him rated; however, he will be relegated to holding a clipboard for many, many years. Hence, he may have less actual value than his listed value.


For the Raiders, it's OT Menelik Watson in the second and the reasons are plenty:

- Fits a need at RT
- Rated a first round prospect by most counts, got him in the second
- Result of a trade down acquisition for a much needed 2nd round pick and his selection justifies the trade down.
- Grown man, will play sooner than later
- Tony Sparano will coach him up
- Upside is a Pro Bowl level player

Think about this one and tell us who ya got.
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Shamarko Thomas.

Awesome value in the 4th, I had him among the best players available easily when day 3 started. hes exactly what they want from a safety, and we lost Will Allen and Ryan Mundy to the Cowboys and Giants...there was no depth behind clark (old, slow, cant play in denver) and troy (old, frail). Such an excellent trade up.

The steelers traded away a next year 3rd to get the 4th rounder, they havent traded away a future year pick in over 40 years. It was done with the assumption they will get a 3rd round comp for wallace, but still...40 years
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Khaseem Green -- LB -- Rutgers

We got him in the fourth round and I actually think he is better than our 2nd round pick Jon Bostic. The Bears did sign James Anderson and D.J. Williams this offseason but I think before the season is over, Green will be a full-time starter.
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Reid Fragel in the 7th. Is about the only value pick for the Bengals. Everyone else they took went around where they should have been taken.
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Schwenke in the 4th. Odds are he'll either start immediately or at least very quickly, and push Fernando Velasco back to a backup swing G/C where he belongs. Loved that we made that pick.
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That interior of the line went from probably the worst in the league to potentially the best in a short period of time.

For Seattle i'll go with Jesse Williams, adds some needed depth in the rotation and i just like all the tattoos.
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Johnathan Franklin in the fourth round. Arguably the draft's best running back and he, along with Lacy, fill a significant need for the Packers.
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Robert Woods - WR - 2nd Rnd

Woods can run any route, and has gamebreaking ability. Everyone knew we needed a WR to complement Stevie, and him falling into our laps in the 2nd rnd was perfect.
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I think the Bears got fantastic value with Marquess Wilson in the 7th round. He is a very good receiver who had late 1st-mid 2nd talent but fell hard after quitting his team and blaming it on the coaching staff. We knew he would fall, but I don't think anyone thought he would fall past the 5th round. Besides that, I think he is a good kid, and there was no part of me that didn't believe him when he talked about how abusive Mike Leach was. I think he will complement Marshall and have a lot of success there.
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That interior of the line went from probably the worst in the league to potentially the best in a short period of time.

For Seattle i'll go with Jesse Williams, adds some needed depth in the rotation and i just like all the tattoos.
I heard jesse williams knee might be shot beyond hope
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Damontre Moore in the 3rd. Best value (outside of Nassib) but combined with the talent and need. He was our best pick IMO
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I was going to say Jesse Williams, too, because we needed someone immovable in the middle, and he's a lot like Red Bryant. I really didn't expect to get him in the 5th, but a serious knee problem would explain that pretty succinctly. What's the deal with his knee?
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Shamarko Thomas.

Awesome value in the 4th, I had him among the best players available easily when day 3 started. hes exactly what they want from a safety, and we lost Will Allen and Ryan Mundy to the Cowboys and Giants...there was no depth behind clark (old, slow, cant play in denver) and troy (old, frail). Such an excellent trade up.

The steelers traded away a next year 3rd to get the 4th rounder, they havent traded away a future year pick in over 40 years. It was done with the assumption they will get a 3rd round comp for wallace, but still...40 years
LOVED that pick for you all. Tough as nails and of course, he's from the 757 so your coach has tabs on him.
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3rd rounder in 2014 in the 4th round of 2013; will still probably be a pick that doesn't pan out but at least we won't find out about it for another year
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Desond Trufant-big time player, went up and got our guy who fits perfectly in our system and gets to learn from one of the best at the position and go up against Roddy and Julio in practice. Id be very shocked if he didnt become a top 5 corner within a few years.

Sean Renfree-Great value in the 7th, I actually like this kid alot and feel he played well at Duke on a team that has been better than most their years. We need a backup QB and I think hes a great fit to mold into one.
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We got him in the fourth round and I actually think he is better than our 2nd round pick Jon Bostic. The Bears did sign James Anderson and D.J. Williams this offseason but I think before the season is over, Green will be a full-time starter.
LOVED that pick as well! I was telling my Giants fan friend about him about a month ago. I ams surprised he lasted that long. He is that tackling machine you all lack.
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I was surprised he was there. I like him more than the C Dallas took in the 1st!
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Johnathan Franklin in the fourth round. Arguably the draft's best running back and he, along with Lacy, fill a significant need for the Packers.
The only thing with that is they took a RB a round ahead of him. Didn't quite get that.
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Johnathan Franklin in the fourth round. Arguably the draft's best running back and he, along with Lacy, fill a significant need for the Packers.
There is no question about that.

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The only thing with that is they took a RB a round ahead of him. Didn't quite get that.
Well it was actually two rounds and I think the value was too much to pass up. Not to mention Lacy has some injury concerns so I guess it would make sense on that front.
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Lotulelei, duh.
Good value at the spot. He is a top 5-7 prospect in my book. And I loved how you picked up two DTs in two rounds. What I didn't like was once again, no weapons for CAM!!
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Desond Trufant-big time player, went up and got our guy who fits perfectly in our system and gets to learn from one of the best at the position and go up against Roddy and Julio in practice. Id be very shocked if he didnt become a top 5 corner within a few years.

Sean Renfree-Great value in the 7th, I actually like this kid alot and feel he played well at Duke on a team that has been better than most their years. We need a backup QB and I think hes a great fit to mold into one.
I think it is hard to call Trufant a great value at #18. That was about his ceiling as far as draft position is concerned. The whole concept of great value is getting a guy that shouldn't still be there.
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Tank Carradine in the 2nd.

When you take into account the player, the need, the trade to pick up the 3rd rounder in next years draft (yes, I'm counting that as well) and still landing him. What a dream scenario come true.
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