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Old 05-04-2013, 10:00 AM    (permalink
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Default Rank the Top 5 Safeties

Things have changed a lot in the past couple years here, with Ed Reed, Troy Polamalu, and Charles Woodson.
I saw a PFF thing that had Reggie Nelson ranked really really high. Based on his actual performance.

Am curious to see what you guys have as the top 5 safeties of today.

Is Troy Polamalu still great? Or too beat up?
What about Dashon Goldson going to a new team?
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I'd have to really think about it, but Ed Reed, Troy Polomalu and Charles Woodson aren't in it. I can tell you that much
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Reggie Nelson apparently has played very well during his tenure with the Bengals.

TJ Ward has also performed nicely with the Browns.

As for the original question, I think it depends what kind of safety you are talking about. All around safety? I'd say Eric Weddle ranks pretty high in that regard.
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tj is all right, but he still leaves something to be desired in coverage
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Goldson needs to work on his tackling and not just be a cover safety before I rank him high as just a pure safety personally.
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I think the magnitude of the safety when Tuck was pressuring Tom Brady in the superbowl two years ago really set the tone for the rest of the game.

Guess it really depends how you rank em, I mean, are we ranking just based on last year or how they've produced over the last few seasons. I don't put much into PFF personally, so here's my list of maybe not the top 5, but 5 I respect and enjoy watching.

1) Eric Weddle
2) Jarius Byrd
3) Earl Thomas
4) Reggie Nelson
5) Morgan Burnett

1) William Moore
2) Reshad Jones
3) TJ Ward
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Who are the best centerfielders?
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This thread is going to be painful, because everyone thinks every safety is overrated. When in reality, looking good at safety nowadays is damn near impossible.

I'll take Earl Thomas #1, Eric Berry somewhere in the top 5, and Danieal Manning somewhere in the top 10.
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This thread is going to be painful, because everyone thinks every safety is overrated. When in reality, looking good at safety nowadays is damn near impossible.

I'll take Earl Thomas #1, Eric Berry somewhere in the top 5, and Danieal Manning somewhere in the top 10.
Not in till he learns how to cover. I still believe he is going to be one of the best in the league at his position but he isn't there yet.

He reminds me of Derrick Johnson when he first came in to the league. He has all the talent in the world but it's going to take him time to put it all together.

Losing a whole season to injury didn't help.
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When healthy, how high does Kenny Phillips rank?
How high is Harrison Smith already? He looked good-great last year in the 3 games I saw him.
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Not in till he learns how to cover. I still believe he is going to be one of the best in the league at his position but he isn't there yet.

He reminds me of Derrick Johnson when he first came in to the league. He has all the talent in the world but it's going to take him time to put it all together.

Losing a whole season to injury didn't help.
My counterpoint is pretty much the first sentence I typed in that post. I know he looks bad in coverage at times but I think his overall impact is right up there.
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To me, Earl Thomas is by far and away the best FS in football. I want my FS playing the post and taking away the deep ball. Nobody in the league does it better than Earl.

Seattle runs a ton of single high looks, and it only works bc of Earl. Earl allows those CBs to play aggressive and not worry about getting beat over the top. Their Over scheme with the box safety being a hammer cannot work without Earl being good enough to cover the deepball by himself.

Earl makes that scheme work. He's the most important player in that defense.

Earl Thomas is the best FS in football by a wide margin.
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2. Jarius Byrd
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Hm, I'd have to go:

FS:
1. Thomas
2. Jaryious Byrd
3. Eric Weddle
4. Dashon Goldson
5. Ed Reed

SS:
1. Eric Berry
2. Cam Chancellor
3. TJ Ward
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I want to separate them as FS and SS, but it's hard to make the distinction bc many teams don't. They have right and left safeties.

I do favor the guys who are centerfielders who I tag as FS vs the box guys. But at the same time, I understand the importance of both.

I just think that a centerfielder can do so much for your defense, and opens up the playbook so much.

He also lets you disguise your coverages and blitzes with a lot more effectiveness. Especially on 1st and 2nd down.

I also feel that Harrison Smith is criminally underrated. He's a more athletic Eric Weddle. He can do it all. Great safety. He's young, but he's damn good.
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Probably Byrd and Thomas. Weddle when used in that role. Goldson was good at it this past season when the 49ers did decide to leave him on an island, which wasn't .much since we naturally just like to play two safeties deep most of the time. You can still throw Reed in there too.
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Oh, my bad. Didn't realize SWDC was the pinnacle of class and grace.
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Hm, I'd have to go:

FS:
1. Thomas
2. Jaryious Byrd
3. Eric Weddle
4. Dashon Goldson
5. Ed Reed

SS:
1. Eric Berry
2. Cam Chancellor
3. TJ Ward
4. William Moore
5. Laron Landry
No Reshad Jones = EPIC FAIL.
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