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Old 05-01-2013, 01:43 AM    (permalink
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Dear Logan Thomas,
Move back to that 5 star TE you were supposed to be coming out of high school

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(watching va tech spring game on espnu not that i needed that to deduce this)
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Looking at some of these projections it still trips me out to see Stanford players near the first round
Stanford has somehow become the new SC in that if they have any prospect with solidish measurables and production, they are ranked as one of the top prospects heading into next season. I know you're a Stanford fan but even you can probably admit it's getting to be a little much.
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Missouri has only two guys worth watching this season. EJ Gaines CB and Henry Josey RB. EJ had an up and down year last year, his first season playing in the SEC. Josey sat out all last year with a pretty bad knee injury (had 3 surgeries, ACL tear, MCL tear, Meniscus tear, Patellar tendon tear) He was awesome in 2011. Quick, shifty runner with homerun speed. 4.3s in the forty, before his injury.

I don't consider James Franklin draftable. He was horrendous last season. Actually hoping Maty Mauk wins that job.
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Stanford has somehow become the new SC in that if they have any prospect with solidish measurables and production, they are ranked as one of the top prospects heading into next season. I know you're a Stanford fan but even you can probably admit it's getting to be a little much.
How you figure? Standford easily had one one of the best defensive fronts in college football last year.

Trent Murphy is a monster off the edge, Henry Anderson has ability, Josh Mauro has potential inside and Ben Gardner was a beast last season at times. At linebacker they have some very solid players and Carter played great at corner last year. And that is just the defense, the offensive line has been good ever since Luck got there and they have consistently put out good offensive linemen year after year and that is not even talking about the tight ends.

So to say they are overrated, hardly, just on the defensive line along how are were they not top 5 as a unit last year? They were hands down the best in the Pac-12 by a mile.
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I'll be sure to keep you all up to date on Khalil Mack and Branden Oliver. These should be some guys that might actually be worth caring about, so hopefully Oliver has a healthy year and Mack breaks some NCAA records.
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I agree, Branden Oliver has an outside chance of being very good and being drafted in the 2nd or late 1st in that Ray Rice type of mold. But that would only happen if he has a monster year of like 1700 or 2000 yards rushing. Great if he can put it all together in one season but it will be hard...
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Who said his work habits aren't the best? His coaching staff and area scouts rave about his workouts.



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ASJ is a local guy so i'm really pulling for him but he needs to grow up. His work habits aren't the best and he recently got himself a DUI.

We've got the two best TEs here in the Pac12 north in him and Colt Lyerla from those dreaded Ducks.
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Stanford has somehow become the new SC in that if they have any prospect with solidish measurables and production, they are ranked as one of the top prospects heading into next season. I know you're a Stanford fan but even you can probably admit it's getting to be a little much.
Which players are you talking about specifically? This year might be like that a little. We have a lot of defensive guys getting love currently but we also have one of the better front seven in college football, but I don't know how they rank as prospects yet. Generally our players are pretty smart and tough.

We've had some pretty good talent come through recently. Luck and Decastro were studs and deserved their rankings. Fleener and Ertz were decent early 2nd level guys and got taken there.
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No mention of Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State?

6'3, 215lbs, and 77 receptions for 1018 yds and 11 TDs as a soph in 2012.
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Logan Thomas, De'Anthony Thomas, and Dri Archer are not 1st rounders.

Silas Redd and Lache Seastrunk would have been 1st rounders if they had declared this year. I expect them to be 1st rounders next year.
Redd wasn't even the best RB on his own team last year, and it was a bad team.

He'd have been lucky to be a 4th rounder this year and may well end up even worse off in 2014
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I have a feeling Cyrus Kouandjio may have a bit of a rough year this year. He has all the tools but sometimes he isn't that impressive and he played next to a top 10 pick at OG. Watching the NC Championship game again I seen numerous occassions were he blocked nobody (didn't become an issue because the interior and right hand side did such a dominant job on Nix and Tuitt). At times he also doesn't have a great base and can get walked backwards. I am hoping for some technical improvements because he has the tools and potential but right now I think Kouandkio may be being overrated a little
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I agree, Branden Oliver has an outside chance of being very good and being drafted in the 2nd or late 1st in that Ray Rice type of mold. But that would only happen if he has a monster year of like 1700 or 2000 yards rushing. Great if he can put it all together in one season but it will be hard...
Just stop it...

Turn on the Georgia tape from last season. Doesn't look like he belongs anywhere near the SEC. His offensive line didn't give him much to work with, but he rarely did anything. Only things I like about him are solid feet and great in pass protection. Undersized, average speed, average agility.
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Here's The GBN's yearly projection:

http://www.gbnreport.com/2014projection.html

IMO, it will be a very, very weak senior class since such a huge # of juniors declared this past season.
You have no idea how pissed off I would be, and all other Bronco fans, if after losing the Super Bowl, they go out and draft a QB in the 1st round, especially after spending a 2nd on Osweiler who the staff raves about a lot actually.
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You forgot two RS So in Davante Adams from Fresno and Mike Evans from A&M.
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Especially if it's Logan Thomas.
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Larry Webster is going to be one of the more intriguing prospects in this senior class. He's converted over from basketball, has the length teams looks for, produced in his first year back to football, and has the bloodlines on his side as well.
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Next Wes Welker will be Mike Campanaro, Wake Forest. That should be a thread all in itself.
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I've been going through the senior class of defensive ends and Chaz Sutton looks like a player poised to have a big year, helping his stock. He'll likely be the end starting opposite of Clowney and he's a quick, tenacious lineman.
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That is just insulting to Wes Welker.
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That is just insulting to Wes Welker.
First off Campanaro has never had the luxury of having name QBs to throw to him and second i'm comparing him at the same age to a guy who was never drafted. Cut me a little slack on this one.

Campanaro has great hands and lateral quickness for a slot receiver and possesses 4.45 to 4.5 speed, just a comparison.
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True, it will be interesting to see how he does next year. Had a real breakout season last year, played much better than Devin Taylor did for them, will see if he can keep it up this year with expectations now.

Crazy how South Carolina always gets these good defensive linemen, but will be interesting also to see who develops, Quarles should have a big year as well for them at DT. They do have a lot of holes to fill on that defense though, lost a lot of talent last year.





So what is the deal with Michael Dyer? To me he could easily be the 1st RB taken in 2014 draft, but what he is at Arkansas Baptist College right now, could go out for the 2013 draft but obviously did not. Left Arkansas to follow Malzahn then going to leave Arkansas State to go back to Auburn with Malzahn?

Anyone know the situation with this kid, he was such a stud as a freshman, but maybe his mind is not on football like it should.



Nickolas Brassell of Ole Miss is another player to watchout for. He is back on the roster, guess he got his grades back in order. Was a WR/CB as a freshman, would be potentially one hell of a ball hawk at DB, and is really athletic and quick. Could be a star possible for an already surprisingly stacked Ole Miss team. Probably one of the best and hyped up Ole Miss teams I have seen since I have been alive.
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Which players are you talking about specifically? This year might be like that a little. We have a lot of defensive guys getting love currently but we also have one of the better front seven in college football, but I don't know how they rank as prospects yet. Generally our players are pretty smart and tough.

We've had some pretty good talent come through recently. Luck and Decastro were studs and deserved their rankings. Fleener and Ertz were decent early 2nd level guys and got taken there.
I think those recent players you mentioned deserved where they were projected. As for this year i don't see anyone claiming any of their players are going first at their position but there several that should get an early call. Gardner, Murphy, Tarpley, Reynolds all come to mind on the defensive side of the ball.
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Nickolas Brassell of Ole Miss is another player to watchout for. He is back on the roster, guess he got his grades back in order. Was a WR/CB as a freshman, would be potentially one hell of a ball hawk at DB, and is really athletic and quick. Could be a star possible for an already surprisingly stacked Ole Miss team. Probably one of the best and hyped up Ole Miss teams I have seen since I have been alive.
I know it seems like a century ago, but believe it or not this was 4 years ago:



Brassell has all the talent in the world. He is going to be playing corner and returning punts this year, he "left" the team after his freshman year and which he and Donte Moncrief were the true freshman starting receivers. Well after one year in JUCO he is back and they are putting him at corner, the position where the sky is the limit for him. People have been raving about his ability since he was a freshman in high school, we still haven't seen what he can do.

Scary thing is that Brassell and Moncrief were probably the 2 best players on the team as true freshman, and Brassell wasn't even playing his best position. He is a playmaker with the ball in his hands and can be a hell of a receiver, but everyone still thinks his potential is endless at corner. We will see. The talent is there, plus he will still see the ball in his hands on special teams and some offense.

I don't see Ole Miss doing better than last year with wins, but at least we know we have some talented players and a competent coach who has everyones support. Those are things we have not had in a few years. Some Ole Miss fans are jumping the gun though, we are still in rebuilding mode. Last year went better than anyone could have imagined, but there is still a long ways to go before we can consitently compete with the best in this conference. I love the direction we are going though, the problem is we are one or two injuries away from being ******. We simply don't have the depth that the powerhouse teams do.
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