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Old 05-06-2013, 03:33 PM    (permalink
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I believe there was a lot more to the Watkins story than was let on last season. Besides the suspension in beginning of season, his lackluster play, and even that one week he was ruled out with a "stomach virus" for Saturday when it was only Tuesday of that week.

Something was up last year. Not sure what though.
I totally agree, there is something we don't know about what went on with him.
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The "stomach virus" was actually from the physical beating he took while matched up with Xavier Rhodes and Tyler Hunter according to a lot of Clemson fans. I think if he gets back to form he'll go ahead of Lee in the Draft next Spring due to his size and speed.
Lee is listed as 6'1'' 195 and Watkins at 6'1'' 200. Not a very big difference in size.
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Listed as 6'0 but I'd be surprised if he wasn't 5'10 or just above
He's taller than Robert Woods, and Woody measured in at 6'0" at the combine. I think it's safe to say he's 6'0" and some change at the very least.
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Lee is listed as 6'1'' 195 and Watkins at 6'1'' 200. Not a very big difference in size.
Most sites have him listed at 6' including wiki, nfldraftscout, sbnation, cbs sports and this site. I also read that as a high school player who was under 6 feet, he could dunk and 11 foot rim.
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One thing I've noticed about USC is they almost never exaggerate (lie) when it comes to listed heights.
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One thing I've noticed about USC is they almost never exaggerate (lie) when it comes to listed heights.
Worse one I've seen is Daymien(sp?) Hughes from Cal.

He was listed at 6'2 his whole time at Cal, and ended up being 5'10.
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Personally I don't think Lee is an elite prospect. I wouldn't take him top 5 like he's being projected. Just because I think he's limited with what he can do, mainly because of the size/speed combination. The Jennings comparison is a decent one (although I think Lee has the potential to be better). Jennings is a great route runner, very good after the catch and can stretch the field vertically. They're both easily capable of being a #1 receiver, but they're not elite prospects/players.
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I think some of ya'll are under-selling his speed. I don't think he runs 4.3, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised if he did though.
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A.J. and Julio are on the same level. Both were ELITE talents coming out. I agree that he will probably be rated closer to Dez coming out. Dez is also an elite talent but he's a bit of a ratard. Marqise isn't the all-around player that those guys are but he's a gamebreaker and will instantly be a #1 receiver the day he steps on the field in the NFL.
yeah right. AJ was supposed to be the safest thing ever and julio several notches below him.

I loved Julio...defended him tirelessly in some of these threads, but he was hardly looked at as a sure thing

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He's taller than Robert Woods, and Woody measured in at 6'0" at the combine. I think it's safe to say he's 6'0" and some change at the very least.
im actually surprised but lee does seem taller than woods in most pictures

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Worse one I've seen is Daymien(sp?) Hughes from Cal.

He was listed at 6'2 his whole time at Cal, and ended up being 5'10.
haha I remember that. He wasn't even close to 5'11 either if I recall correctly. I actually liked Hughes a lot at Cal but that pretty turrrible.
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USC's worst that I can remember were Fred Davis and Mark Sanchez being 6'2" while being listed at 6'4" throughout HS/College.


FSU's Everette Brown was pretty bad. Wasn't he listed at 6'3" and ended up 6'0"?
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USC's worst that I can remember were Fred Davis and Mark Sanchez being 6'2" while being listed at 6'4" throughout HS/College.


FSU's Everette Brown was pretty bad. Wasn't he listed at 6'3" and ended up 6'0"?
Sanchez was listed at 6'3 at SC and Davis was listed at 6'4, only 1" taller than their actual heights.
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Worse one I've seen is Daymien(sp?) Hughes from Cal.

He was listed at 6'2 his whole time at Cal, and ended up being 5'10.
Desean jackson was listed as 6-0 190 and came in barely 5-9 169 soaking wet standing on his toes lol
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Sanchez was listed at 6'3 at SC and Davis was listed at 6'4, only 1" taller than their actual heights.
Fred Davis is 6'2" and some change. Rivals had both as 6'4" coming out of HS, but I forgot USC had him at 6'3".
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USC's worst that I can remember were Fred Davis and Mark Sanchez being 6'2" while being listed at 6'4" throughout HS/College.


FSU's Everette Brown was pretty bad. Wasn't he listed at 6'3" and ended up 6'0"?
Whoops a doops....
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6'4" to 6'2", so it wasn't as bad as I thought.
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Fred Davis is 6'2" and some change. Rivals had both as 6'4" coming out of HS, but I forgot USC had him at 6'3".
not trying to be fussy but i just looked it up before that last post and fred davis measured at 6'3 at the combine.

and still not trying to be fussy but desean was listed at 5'11 172 at cal, not 6'0 190.


you guys need to stop making me look so cunty because i know how to google!
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not trying to be fussy but i just looked it up before that last post and fred davis measured at 6'3 at the combine.

and still not trying to be fussy but desean was listed at 5'11 172 at cal, not 6'0 190.


you guys need to stop making me look so cunty because i know how to google!

That's all you, bruh.

Fred Davis measured in 6025 which is 6'2" and some change. He's one of my favorite players (check my avatar), so I would know.
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That's all you, bruh.

Fred Davis measured in 6025 which is 6'2" and some change. He's one of my favorite players (check my avatar), so I would know.
guess i can't go back now.

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Okay, well you have no proof of that and nothing to back it up, so....
Of course I don't have proof of that. No one has proof of where teams had players ranked. Not earth shattering news. But common sense says that 32 teams did not have candidates that were so closing ranked all ranked in the same order.
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yeah right. AJ was supposed to be the safest thing ever and julio several notches below him.

I loved Julio...defended him tirelessly in some of these threads, but he was hardly looked at as a sure thing

heres a great one:

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41535&highlight=how+fast+is+julio +jones
No offense, but none of that is valid. Did you look at the date of those posts? This is before we had measurables on either.
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Fellas, can we go back to arguing about Marqise?
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Fellas, can we go back to arguing about Marqise?
Yeah, right now based on what we know, Marquise is firmly behind prospects like Jones and Green. He's also the player I want my Raiders to draft aside from Clowney.
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