05-07-2013, 10:21 AM
Join Date: Apr 2006
Originally Posted by AcheTen
And again, as someone who has watched quite a bit of Seahawks tape, let me tell you that Thomas is vastly overrated compared to what you actually think he does.
He typically plays Cover-1 free safety. All of the work in the run game is done by Chancellor in the box. All of the work on the WRs is done by the strong press coverage of Sherman and Browner on the outside.
Chancellor is in the box and effective as a box safety BC Thomas' range allows him to be in the box to begin with. If you put Chancellor in any other role, his play is greatly diminished. Thomas makes Chancellor look a lot better than he is. And ok? You want your FS covering WRs? I sure as hell don't, that's what CBs are for. Thomas can cover one if he wants to, but why should he? He's a safety, not a CB.
This entire point is completely irrelevant. In fact it proves MY point, of how valuable he is to the structure of the defense. They can't play this coverage shell on all 3 downs without him.
Thomas doesn't "free lance" in the run game as much as he tackles RBs downfield when they get past the box, which means he is usually part of a bad play. When the Seahawks are successful, the opposing running game usually isn't getting past the area right behind the defensive line and Thomas isn't involved.
Ok. Cool. You do realize he's like 20 yards down the field as the High Post right? He's not going to make tackles in the run game, that's not his job. That's why Chancellor is in the box. That's his job and the front 7's job.
In the passing game, Thomas will find himself either on TEs down the seam or bracketing WRs on the outside. He is rarely in one-on-one coverage on WRs. It's easier for a FS to provide bracket coverage than actual one-on-one coverage. And when Thomas does provide bracket coverage, he is again benefiting from the heavy lifting done by the big CBs in press coverage at the line when they are giving their jams. And when Thomas does find himself in coverage, he is often giving up gains due to his small stature and inability to provide sound coverage, or he is blowing assignments. I've seen it happen numerous times in Seattle games the past three years.
He's playing the deep ball. Seattle is able to be so aggressive at the LOS with WRs bc they are comfortable getting beat with Thomas back there. He dictates the coverage shells with his incredible range. He's not gonna cover WRs, again, thats the role of a CB. Defense 101. Oh and he's getting beat deep all the time you say? Funny. Considering Seattle rarely got beat deep this year.
People who actually watch Seahawks games would understand immediately when I say that Earl Thomas is the worst DB on his own team, and simply cannot be in the discussion for "best safety in the NFL".
I can't believe I missed this post. Responses in bold.
Last edited by bigbluedefense : 05-07-2013 at 10:25 AM.