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Old 05-07-2013, 07:54 PM    (permalink
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To list an O-Line freak without listing Bruce Matthews is such a disappointment.

The guy played in 296 straight games (if you don't factor that he missed games when the whole league went on strike in 87, otherwise it's 229), played every position on the line, was a long-snapper and covered punts long into his career. The guy was like 35 years old covering punts! Not to mention he was the Titans/Oilers emergency kicker and QB for years!

He's one of those rare talents on the offensive line that is filled with physical talent, yet somehow his production far exceeds it.
Anybody who makes the Pro Bowl at 40 years old is a stud.
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Anybody who makes the Pro Bowl at 40 years old is a stud.
I thought about him. He had freaky durability.
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Ole' Jawalrus could do that as well.
He's been blackballed out of the league. Its a shame because he is only like 27 and he can't make the league as a backup.
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He's been blackballed out of the league. Its a shame because he is only like 27 and he can't make the league as a backup.
Maybe he's not being blackballed, but instead he's being treated like a QB who was one of the worst in the NFL during his career and as somebody who hasn't done anything athletically related for 3 years should be treated.

There isn't any potential left in Russell. It astounds me that people think that simply getting into shape somehow will unleash this massive potential for a QB who sucked on many more levels than simply being a fat lazy slob.
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If you don't think Larry Allen was a freak then I don't really know what to tell you to be honest.

He benched 700 pounds and still did what he did in the videos TheFinisher posted on the last page.

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If you don't think Larry Allen was a freak then I don't really know what to tell you to be honest.

He benched 700 pounds and still did what he did in the videos TheFinisher posted on the last page.

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Please read what I first wrote, then watch the first of those very videos you are referencing right below my first post. Make sure to listen closely, oh wise one.
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Please read what I first wrote, then watch the first of those very videos you are referencing right below my first post. Make sure to listen closely, oh wise one.
You wrote give me a break. How is one supposed to take that?
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That's actually amazing.

Kind of disappointed Adrian Peterson is getting no love. I thought he proved he wasn't human after coming back last year the way he did
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That's actually amazing.

Kind of disappointed Adrian Peterson is getting no love. I thought he proved he wasn't human after coming back last year the way he did
Peterson is widely regarded as one of the only players ever that was physically capable of going pro out of highschool...he was a grown ass man. And after almost breaking the rushing record but still tallying his first 2000 yard season after that injury...he should be #1 on the RB list
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Yeah, kinda silly AP isn't on there. He's the Calvin Johnson of running backs.
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Those other RBs weren't exactly slouches.
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I mean jamal lewis as an honorable mention of peterson is criminal
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Those other RBs weren't exactly slouches.
Of course not. Jerry Rice wasn't a slouch, either, but that doesn't put him on this team. AP's the physical prototype for a running back. He can literally do everything. It's not just that he's big and fast, but that he can do everything. He'll run over an All-Pro linebacker and away from an All-Pro cornerback. I mean, he's got Jamal Lewis over AP. It's gotta be Dickerson, AP and Bo at the top, and after that I don't really care.
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Hershel Walker would easily make this listed based on his UGA career, but the USFL stint probably will haunt his legacy.
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I mean jamal lewis as an honorable mention of peterson is criminal
How so? Jamal Lewis was a bonfide freak. He was huge at 240+ pounds, all muscle, and ran under a 4.4. Like Peterson, he also had a 2000 season. Don't short change Lewis. He is the definition of a freak. Peterson is getting a lot of love and I don't disgree. I almost think of him as more of a super soldier than a freak, which I know sounds crazy. But still, he does not quite equal the size speed ratio of lewis.
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Yeah, kinda silly AP isn't on there. He's the Calvin Johnson of running backs.
Okay, so what is Eric Dickerson? Did you see him play? If there was a HINT of a crack in the defense, he was running to daylight. Every long run looked the same, him dusting off the entire defense in a straight line. If you look at his head while he was running, he looked like he was sitting in a recliner watching television.
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I mean jamal lewis as an honorable mention of peterson is criminal
To be fair, I never read anybody's honorable mention picks. It's basically saying "I like this particular guy, but he shouldn't be on the list."

Peterson probably doesn't go ahead of Dickerson or Jackson, even if he's in their tier. In fact, Bo Jackson was probably the greatest American athlete since Jim Thorpe.

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To be fair, I never read anybody's honorable mention picks. It's basically saying "I like this particular guy, but he shouldn't be on the list."

Peterson probably doesn't go ahead of Dickerson or Jackson, even if he's in their tier. In fact, Bo Jackson was probably the greatest athlete since Jim Thorpe.
Correct, there are only two spots. AP is inhuman, but a lot of that inhumanness is related to his durability and strength. He also has great vision, but that is not a freaky quality. Dickerson and Bo's speed AT THEIR SIZE was freak city. Again, Dickerson used to pull away from the fastest CBs who had angles! He did this regularly. Bo was so fast and so big you got the feeling someone was going to die if they took him on at full speed.
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Of course not. Jerry Rice wasn't a slouch, either, but that doesn't put him on this team. AP's the physical prototype for a running back. He can literally do everything. It's not just that he's big and fast, but that he can do everything. He'll run over an All-Pro linebacker and away from an All-Pro cornerback. I mean, he's got Jamal Lewis over AP. It's gotta be Dickerson, AP and Bo at the top, and after that I don't really care.
There are TWO spots, not three. Also, you haven't said a word about O.J. I think making a case over O.J. is better than making a case over a 240+ back that ran a 4.37. That's why he went higher in the draft than AP. Finally, keep in mind this is NOT a list of the best at a given position of all time.
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How so? Jamal Lewis was a bonfide freak. He was huge at 240+ pounds, all muscle, and ran under a 4.4. Like Peterson, he also had a 2000 season. Don't short change Lewis. He is the definition of a freak. Peterson is getting a lot of love and I don't disgree. I almost think of him as more of a super soldier than a freak, which I know sounds crazy. But still, he does not quite equal the size speed ratio of lewis.
Not short changing him, but peterson was pro ready physically out of HIGH SCHOOL, i dont know if you follow recruiting that much but ive never seen a player that physically developed at 18...that is just not normal. He will also pass lewis in yards with a below career average season next year.


He also already has 20 more TDs and averages 5.0 YPC to Lewis' 4.2. Lewis was a hell of a pro, but peterson beats him in every category except weight. He doesnt seem to be slowing down either, his is right around where lewis slowed down in his career and became a big bruising power back

Also, Dr. Andrews summed it up in saying operating on Petersons knee was more like operating on a new born baby than it was on a full grown man who has run and trained his whole life....freak status
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"He won't be able to just use his arm power to throw defenders around at the next level!"

The hell he won't, lol.

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Finally, keep in mind this is NOT a list of the best at a given position of all time.
Then why isn't Jamison Konz on this list?
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Then why isn't Jamison Konz on this list?
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OJ was a freak as well, but his off the field life has made him a forgotten man when people suggest all time greats at RB.


Frank Gore deserves some mention in this thread as well. He was touted as one of the best high school backs of all time and was going to start as a freshman at Miami when they were still rolling big (Over Clinton Portis). What he has done in his career after multiple serious knee injuries is amazing.
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