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I just realized what you were zoning in on.

"I'm not being a homer - its just true" was towards Wade > Melo. Not my opinion on the Cuse Champ.
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more importantly, I just watched MarShon's highlight reel for this season. the world needs more MarShon
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PJ didn't feel that way.


And probably why he is no longer the coach.
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it was mainly Aevry to start which messed with MarShon. PJ kept it going with Bogans and CJ watson, which was annoying. I wanna see some Tyshawn and MarShon next year. Spark plugs off the bench. Would give us some god damn energy which killed us in the playoffs.
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I think Watson can be a nice piece off the bench.

Tyshawn should be ready to go by next season.
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Dwayne Wade is not better than Carmelo Anthony.

He can't even stay healthy. He'd be Tracy McGrady without LeBron James.
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He can't even stay healthy. He'd be Tracy McGrady without LeBron James.
Deep down, you know that is not true.
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Deep down I'm certain that Melo is better than Wade. Yes. The Melo hate here is ridiculous.

The man carries the Knicks. I honestly think most of the Melo hate here stems from my shenanigans, but it's all good. When he wins the title it's gonna be the greatest thing ever.
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The only one here who hates Melo is Brodeur. You just overrate the hell out of him.
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I don't overrate him. I said he was a top 5 player this year in the NBA. And I stand by that.
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I've been a Melo hater since his Denver days. Melo ball doesn't win championships.
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I don't hate Melo. I just don't think he is a MVP caliber player which means Top 5 player in the NBA.

He is what he is - prolific scorer. I don't think he is a winner.
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I don't overrate him. I said he was a top 5 player this year in the NBA. And I stand by that.
Talent wise he is, I don't hate him as much as others. I just don't think he plays the type of game that wins championships. Since Westbrook went down Durant could have chucked up 100 shots a game too, yet somehow he's managed to run point forward(which he's rarely had to do as he's always been able to come off screens to the ball) and get everyone else involved.

With the type of attention these guys draw, you can open up the floor for so many other guys. That's why Derek Fisher and Kevin Martin are getting wide open 3's nearly every time, it just shows how special a player he is IMO.


Melo is a scorer, and one of the best at it. But that's where it stops. His defense is average(that's being generous), he doesn't pass, doesn't try to get teammates involved, he just scores and shoots, and all he knows how to do is shoot it more when that isn't working.


It's not like he is incapable of doing anything else, he just doesn't want to.
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He is what he is - prolific scorer. I don't think he is a winner.
This is how I feel about him.
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That pretty much sums it up.
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Talent wise he is, I don't hate him as much as others. I just don't think he plays the type of game that wins championships. Since Westbrook went down Durant could have chucked up 100 shots a game too, yet somehow he's managed to run point forward(which he's rarely had to do as he's always been able to come off screens to the ball) and get everyone else involved.

With the type of attention these guys draw, you can open up the floor for so many other guys. That's why Derek Fisher and Kevin Martin are getting wide open 3's nearly every time, it just shows how special a player he is IMO.


Melo is a scorer, and one of the best at it. But that's where it stops. His defense is average(that's being generous), he doesn't pass, doesn't try to get teammates involved, he just scores and shoots, and all he knows how to do is shoot it more when that isn't working.


It's not like he is incapable of doing anything else, he just doesn't want to.
Tons of great players aren't. That shouldn't take away from him being a great player. Lots of great players don't have the goods to win it all by themselves with no help.

Melo is not a great passer. He's a great scorer, and he's actually a very good defender when he wants to be. The whole Melo sucks at D thing is a myth. He plays very good defense in the playoffs. He's not LeBron James on D, but who is?

He's a very good defender. And he's a matchup nightmare. His problem is he's a ball stopper and he's not a great passer.

Well Kobe was a ball stopper and not a great passer either. The difference is Kobe cared about defense all the time unlike Melo and he was a competitor and leader 24/7, unlike Melo.

But a lot of criticism of Melo is unjustified. Think about this for a second, out of all the superstars remaining, minus Durant right now, who has a worse 2nd scoring option than Melo?

Who?

His 2nd scoring option is JR Smith. Think about that. No one ever gives Melo any slack for that, but when you take a step back and realize what he's working with, you realize just how valuable he is to us, and how good he is.

I mean come on. LeBron has Wade and Bosh. Durant has Westbrook. Tim Duncan has Tony Parker.

Who the hell does Melo have? Think about it. Yet he never gets any recognition for that. It's just lulz Melo is a chucker.

But who is he gonna pass to? Someone needs to answer that for me. Who do you want him passing to? JR gets his shots. Felton gets his shots. Who is Melo supposed to pass to?
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Kobe can pass and he's proven it. Sonetimes he does it at the wrong times but Kobe can pass the ball no problem.

Trying to compare Melo to Kobe...the nerve!!
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Maybe Melo should try elevating the play of those around him.
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I'm not saying Melo is the player that Kobe is. But they share similar traits. Being a ball stopper isn't the end of the world.

A lot of great players in this league were ball stoppers. Not everyone is gonna be LeBron James. I think he's spoiled a lot of people. LeBron's game is once in a generation. Magic was the last person who played like him. That was 30 years ago.
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Maybe Melo should try elevating the play of those around him.
He does. We're the best 3 point shooting team in NBA history. Melo's a big reason for that.
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But a lot of criticism of Melo is unjustified. Think about this for a second, out of all the superstars remaining, minus Durant right now, who has a worse 2nd scoring option than Melo?

Who?

His 2nd scoring option is JR Smith. Think about that. No one ever gives Melo any slack for that, but when you take a step back and realize what he's working with, you realize just how valuable he is to us, and how good he is.

Why would you ask that question then say minus Durant? There are only 8 teams remaining anyway, so we want to cut it down to 6 since we aren't counting Durant and the Knicks don't count, so I don't think using 6 teams as an example really helps anything out.


I also don't see the point of saying minus Durant, you make it seem like passing to JR Smith is some sort of inconvenience when Durant is passing to Kevin Martin and Derek Fisher. He draws a ton of attention, with all the shooters they have he could do a much better job all around. For me, there is more then just scoring points. If you want to argue just being a pure scorer, sure I'd put him up there with the best. But overall player, no. You should even know that because even you have to say "when Melo feels like trying on defense", what superstar do you know that you would have to say that about?
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Y'all just jelly of melo's impending title.
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Why would you ask that question then say minus Durant? There are only 8 teams remaining anyway, so we want to cut it down to 6 since we aren't counting Durant and the Knicks don't count, so I don't think using 6 teams as an example really helps anything out.


I also don't see the point of saying minus Durant, you make it seem like passing to JR Smith is some sort of inconvenience when Durant is passing to Kevin Martin and Derek Fisher. He draws a ton of attention, with all the shooters they have he could do a much better job all around. For me, there is more then just scoring points. If you want to argue just being a pure scorer, sure I'd put him up there with the best. But overall player, no. You should even know that because even you have to say "when Melo feels like trying on defense", what superstar do you know that you would have to say that about?
Durant had Westbrook all season. And while Durant is playing great, watch what he does without Westbrook. He's gonna lose to the Grizzlies this round.

So what does that tell you? It's not easy winning by yourself. Yet when Durant loses to the Grizzlies, not a soul will talk down about him, but when Melo eventually loses, it's going to be "Melo can't win the big one"

Never mind the fact that Melo doesn't have dog **** to work with. That's not important.

Even without Westbrook, Duran't supporting cast is better than Melos. Yet he's not gonna win without him. It's not easy winning by yourself. Yet everyone wants to ignore that when it comes to Melo.

It's complete ********.
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