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Old 05-09-2013, 03:37 PM    (permalink
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Carmelo is overrated and Wade is better than him even with bum knees. But I did see an impressive stat about MELAS posted defense the other day. I forgot exactly what it was but he's pretty good at it statistically.
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The woman that flipped off Noah: http://www.sbnation.com/2013/5/9/431...oah-the-finger

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Who is even talking about Melo not being able to win this year with the Knicks? We're talking about him as a player. No one expects the Knicks to win **** this year besides you and no one is blaming that on Melo.
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Can the Heat just sweep the Knicks already so this topic can die in a fire?
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Haha, I want the Knicks to win, clearly but I'd be lying if I didn't say I hated a lot of the players on this team. Melo is overrated (at least if you attempt to view him from BBD's perception of Melo), JR really isn't that good and is douche bag, Kidd is a douche bag, and I'm not a huge fan of Woodson's philosophy. The defense is fine but his iso ball offense will not cut it in the playoffs. Not when we have a lot of hot and cold players like Melo and JR.

Plus the direction of this team is incredibly depressing. We went from having a super young team with a great chance of grabbing Melo in free agency to an ancient team in a couple years. Our window is already closing quickly. Melo will be fine, but we have a ton of older players on this team. Couple that in with having one of the worst contracts (if not the worst) in basketball with Stat and it limits what we are able to do.

Using the amnesty clause on Billups was probably the stupidest move ever.
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Why does BBD keep calling Wade "T-Mac" with no LeBron? Did he miss that Wade was the best player on a team that won a title? That he was an ankle injury away from 2 straight titles early in his career?
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Because he's going to try to tell you that Shaq was the best player on that team. Wait for it.
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Dwayne Wade is not better than Carmelo Anthony.

He can't even stay healthy. He'd be Tracy McGrady without LeBron James.
Come on dude, Wade won a title pretty much by himself in 2006.
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T-Mac is a fringe top 50 player of all time who authored a few of the greatest seasons ever before he was crippled by injuries. Comparing Wade to him isn't an insult in the slightest, because the one fault that McGrady had (lack of playoff success), Wade has in spades because he carried Miami to a title.

TMac from 00-04:
28.1 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 5.2 APG, 1.5 SPG, 1.0 BPG, 2.6 TOV, .446 FG, .361 3P, .768 FT, 26.4 PER, 12.1 Win Shares per Season, .199 Win Shares per 48 Minutes

Melo has averaged 28.1+ PPG three times in his career, 7.0+ RPG twice, 5.2+ assists never (and not even close), 1.5 SPG+ never, 1.0 BPG+ never , fewer than 2.6 turnovers never, has roughly the same shooting percentages, 26.4+ PER never, 12.1+ Win Shares never (and not even close), and .199 WS/48 never

Also, I was ready to say that they're about equal in the terribleness of their defense, but T-Mac averaged 2.7 defensive win shares for those seasons (significantly dragged down by a 0.4 in 2004), a number Carmelo has only equaled or topped once in his career.

So yea, if you're going to try and downsize Wade via comparison when talking Wade vs Melo, try to compare him to someone who doesn't STILL dwarf Melo with his overall game. Scoring is the only thing Melo can equal pre-injury bug T-Mac at, while McGrady destroys him in every other area.

Oh, and Dwyane Wade is a lot better than Tracy McGrady.

D-Wade is lightyears better than Melo, and it's not even a discussion. Not even remotely.
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Dwayne Wade is not better than Carmelo Anthony.

He can't even stay healthy. He'd be Tracy McGrady without LeBron James.
You can't simultaneously argue this AND say there is an argument against LeBron for unanimous MVP, can you?

I'd love to hear it if you can.

Edit: I assume you're talking about the late year T-Mac, not the one comahan just talked about...
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Now Melo and Rockets-Tmac... that's a better a comparison! Wade? Not so much.

Edit: McGrady averaged 21.1 PER and .143 WS/48 in his mediocre, injury plagued years in Houston. Melo has a 20.8 career PER and only has .143+ WS/48 three times. Those numbers certainly don't mean everything, but lol
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Oh, and Dwyane Wade is a lot better than Tracy McGrady.
You mean McGrady pre injuries or in general? (I assume pre-injuries)
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You mean McGrady pre injuries or in general? (I assume pre-injuries)
They're on a similar level before the injuries, but the edge goes to Wade due to playoff success, scoring efficiency, and defense. Then the longevity at a high level puts him way ahead of Tracy in the big picture. Still, T-Mac in Orlando was UNBELIEVABLY talented and awesome to watch.
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I'd like to add that I don't dislike Melo, I just think the claim of him being better than Dwyane Wade is absurd. It's like saying that Adam Dunn was as good as Albert Pujols because they had similar HR and BB stats in their primes.
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Yeah, Wade was way better than Melo and still might be.
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No, he still is. There's no might.
On a per minute basis, sure. Wade is a good bet to miss a significant amount of time each year going forward though and that counts.
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My friend had a run in with Baron Davis today. His beard is as awesome as ever.
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THE BODYGUARD!!!!!
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Does Baron plan on playing next season?
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