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Old 05-17-2013, 01:34 PM    (permalink
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Back in a previous ‘Is it just me?’ column, Richard Matthews made a decent claim for Timothy Dalton as the best Bond so far.

But he ignored the fact the Welshman was always just a transitional stop-gap for the 007 franchise: a last-minute replacement after Eon’s first choice was suddenly made unavailable for reasons neither party could control.

And who was this first choice of whom we speak? Why, Pierce Brendan Brosnan of course: an actor not just ideal for Bond, but the only one you can honestly say was born to play him.

Sean Connery had his doubters. Roger Moore had his. From the moment Brosnan was confirmed for GoldenEye, however, not one naysayer queried his casting. He looked right. He felt right.

And he had the perfect backstory, not just having missed out the first time around, but also having lost his very own Bond girl (For Your Eyes Only’s Cassandra Harris) in the tragic interim.

According to Matthews, Pierce “aped Connery with a trace of Moore-ism smarm”. That seems a little reductive to me. Yes, Brosnan knew how to deliver a ’70s-era quip and a pun-laden innuendo. And he had no trouble either gear-shifting into lady-killing seducer, be he in a hotel suite, an ice palace or the driving seat of a DB5.

What he had that Roger didn’t, though, was a core of steel - an implacable resolve that made him a ruthless killing machine when the occasion required it.

When Moore or Connery took a life, there was usually a joke to make it palatable (“He got the point”, “Play it again, Sam” and so on). Yet when Pierce kills he does it in cold blood, without hesitation or (usually) a throwaway remark.

Not only that, but he’s perfectly prepared to do it even when his own life is not directly threatened. “Wait - I’m just a professional doing a job!” pleads Vincent Schiavelli’s Dr Kaufman in Tomorrow Never Dies. “Me too,” answers Brosnan as he puts a bullet in his brain.

It’s an exchange that gets to the heart of Pierce’s Bond: a dedicated operative ready to do anything for the sake of the mission, with a work ethic that overrides any personal considerations.

Nothing peeves him more than being told he’s not up for a task, as he is in both The World Is Not Enough and Die Another Day.

Nor is he a guy to crack under pressure, 14 months of torture in a North Korean prison constituting little more than a slight sartorial inconvenience.

True, Brosnan was let down by Die Another Day, with its CGI kite surfing and invisible car. Were it not for his virile charm and effortless elegance, however, the Bond series could well have withered on the vine long before that 2002 low point.

GoldenEye - no less than Skyfall - reminded us how much we needed Bond and how much we miss him when he isn’t around. And it was Brosnan - smooth, deadly, unbeatable Brosnan - that gave him the all-important kiss of life.
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And that's all ********. Brosnan had non of connery's rugged manish charisma and fell well short of Moore's simple suaveness. I get why he seemed like he could be a good bond, but he just failed to live up to the first two. Craig would've done it had they not ****** up his character to try and fit into the gritty-reboot craze. Dalton also should've been a great bond but was just alright, he was the original gritty reboot for Bond which undercut the Moore like smoothness he could've brought to the role. It goes

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I feel dumb but in Django Unchained I never connected that it was Dentist vs Candie.
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And that's all ********. Brosnan had non of connery's rugged manish charisma and fell well short of Moore's simple suaveness. I get why he seemed like he could be a good bond, but he just failed to live up to the first two. Craig would've done it had they not ****** up his character to try and fit into the gritty-reboot craze. Dalton also should've been a great bond but was just alright, he was the original gritty reboot for Bond which undercut the Moore like smoothness he could've brought to the role. It goes

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Craig > Connery. It wasn't about a gritty-reboot craze, it was creating an actual three movie arc for the character as opposed to boring stereotypical Bond. And Lazenby was in one of the best Bond movies ever.
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I'm a Pierce Brosnan guy, grew up with him as Bond and loved his way of playing him. I watched Golden Eye and Tomorow Never Dies many times and loved them but I admit that The World Is Not Enough and Die Another Day were not great and that I don't have a fond memory of them.
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You guys are just wrong though. Like factually and objectively.
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If you don't think On Her Majesty's Secret Service absolutely annihilates every single Roger Moore Bond, it shows how wrong you really are.
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Craig > Connery. It wasn't about a gritty-reboot craze, it was creating an actual three movie arc for the character as opposed to boring stereotypical Bond. And Lazenby was in one of the best Bond movies ever.
Two things...

1. You're right about Craig and the recent movies. They aren't supposed to be the stereotypical Bond. It's when Bond first became and agent and was not smooth or calculating. He was brash and impulsive, and is supposed to grow to the Connery/Moore character.

2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service is one of the best movies/stories. That doesn't mean Lazenby was good. The movie with a bear playing 007 would annihilate the other movies.
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1. You're right about Craig and the recent movies. They aren't supposed to be the stereotypical Bond. It's when Bond first became and agent and was not smooth or calculating. He was brash and impulsive, and is supposed to grow to the Connery/Moore character.

2. On Her Majesty's Secret Service is one of the best movies/stories. That doesn't mean Lazenby was good. The movie with a bear playing 007 would annihilate the other movies.
Okay, that's fair enough on the second point. It's a shame they didn't follow that type of story in any of the following movies until Craig, that was a really well done Bond.
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All this discussion will be moot if Idris Elba become the next Bond. Stringer is the GOAT.
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I assume Craig does one last Bond, then it can fall into Idris Elba or Benedict Cumberbatch.
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I think it would be great to have a black Bond.
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I love Cumberbatch, but idk how well he fits.
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Craig's signed for 2 more, I believe.

I would live Elba for the next Bond.
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That voice fits every goddamn role, and so do his amazingly handsome looks.
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Elba would be amazing. And supposedly he is actually the very weak favorite (which probably means someone with a blog said so).

Cumberbatch though? No. I love Cumberbatch, but that dude is not James Bond. The fact that he's considered handsome still confuses me, he's just so strange looking. Perhaps not ugly, but strange. Perfect for Sherlock, perfect most smart roles and villains, but he is not James Bond.
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Elba would be amazing. And supposedly he is actually the very weak favorite (which probably means someone with a blog said so).

Cumberbatch though? No. I love Cumberbatch, but that dude is not James Bond. The fact that he's considered handsome still confuses me, he's just so strange looking. Perhaps not ugly, but strange. Perfect for Sherlock, perfect most smart roles and villains, but he is not James Bond.
CUMBERBATCH IS EVERY ******* ROLE HE WANTS TO BE, YOU ******* PIECE OF ****. GO TO HELL. Ahem.
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