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Old 05-17-2013, 06:35 PM    (permalink
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Where does Chris Paul play his next contract?
I think he stays with the Clipps.

If I had to choose 1 other spot, probably Dallas because Dirk will go all out.
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49 Clyde Drexler, SG
48 Dwight Howard, C
47 Jason Kidd, PG
46 Gary Payton, PG
45 Dolph Schayes, PF
44 Artis Gilmore, C
43 Dominique Wilkins, SF
42 Elvin Hayes, PF
41 Kevin Durant, SF
40 Isiah Thomas, PG
39 Walt Frazier, PG
38 Dave Cowens, C
37 Willis Reed, C
36 Bill Walton, C
35 Kevin McHale, PF
34 Steve Nash, PG
33 Patrick Ewing, C
32 George Gervin, SG
31 Chris Paul, PG
30 George Mikan, C
29 Rick Barry, SF
28 Dennis Rodman, PF
27 Bob Cousy, PG
26 Scottie Pippen, SF
25 John Stockton, PG
24 John Havlicek, SF
23 Dwyane Wade, SG
22 Dirk Nowitzki, PF
21 Elgin Baylor, SF
20 Charles Barkley, PF
19 Bob Pettit, PF
18 Kevin Garnett, PF
17 Julius Erving, SF
16 Karl Malone, PF
15 David Robinson, C
14 Moses Malone, C
13 Jerry West, SG
12 Kobe Bryant, SG
11 Hakeem Olajuwon, C
10 Oscar Robertson, PG
09 Tim Duncan, PF
08 Larry Bird, SF
07 Shaquille O'Neal, C
06 LeBron James, SF
05 Bill Russell, C
04 Magic Johnson, PG
03 Wilt Chamberlain, C
02 Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, C
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Walton would be top 20, no doubt, if he had a few more healthy seasons under his belt. When he was right, he was Tim Duncan, but a better passer, and maybe even a better defender. Same for T-Mac really. If we just judge his prime years, hes better than Clyde, but Clyde had so many more good seasons. So hard to rate.
How would T-Mag be top 20. The guy never broke the 1st round of the playoffs; he's pretty much a worse version of Carmelo.
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You did not just say T-Mac was a worse version if Melo

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T-Mag was the reason us Rockets could never do anything. He's a huge chucker, even more so than Melo. At least Melo has had some playoff success.

He pretty much chucked away Yao's prime.
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T-Mac*'s prime came with the Magic, not with the Rockets.
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T-Mag was the reason us Rockets could never do anything. He's a huge chucker, even more so than Melo. At least Melo has had some playoff success.

He pretty much chucked away Yao's prime.
Melo had playoff success? He's won two series in his entire career, one against a team without their best player and another because Billups dragged the Nuggets into a respectable team for a season.
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T-Mac*'s prime came with the Magic, not with the Rockets.
T-mag chucked the Magic to no success as well. And he was still in his prime with the Rockets. He didn't do jack for us except chuck us out of the playoffs like he did the Magic.
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I present you the 02-03 Orlando Magic. They were an NBDL team without TMac.

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55 Andrew DeClercq C 6-10 230 February 1, 1973 7 University of Florida
8 Pat Garrity PF 6-9 238 August 23, 1976 4 University of Notre Dame
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9 Drew Gooden PF 6-10 230 September 24, 1981 R University of Kansas
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40 Shawn Kemp C 6-10 230 November 26, 1969 13 Trinity Valley Community College
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Yeah, T-Mag didn't have any talent in Orlando, but what's his excuse in Houston? Fact is, he played isoball when the going got tough, and he failed. He lost us so many games/playoff series by being a huge ballhog.
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Dammit Communist.. what kind of Top 50 All Time list doesn't have Ben Wallace on it? Unless it was the Top 50 Players other than Ben Wallace?

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I didn't say T-Mac would be top 20, I said Walton would be. I said T-Mac would be higher if injuries didn't ravage him.
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Anyway...

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The Knicks will almost certainly lose unless George Hills is out again. If Hill is out, I give them a fighting chance....still the underdog, but the Pacers lineups outside of their starters generally fair pretty poorly.
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If Hill is out, I'll go Pacers by 1 on a tip-in to finish.
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Hill is likely out
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If the Knicks lose to a team with DJ Augustin starting at PG this will be so much funnier than it would have been anyway.
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Bad prediction: Amare Stoudamire actually shows up with 17 big points as a spark off the bench.

Bad prediction 2: Prigioni/Kidd shoot 5-7 from 3 together.
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Bad prediction 2: Prigioni/Kidd shoot 5-7 from 3 together.
So, Prigioni is going to make 5 threes? Sweet.
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Good prediction- Indiana won't shoot 50% from the line again.

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