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Old 05-21-2013, 09:16 AM    (permalink
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Sehorn was a beast...for a couple of games a year...
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I'll take another one from the 2004 NFL draft--KWII. He was a stud with all the physical tools but he started his career with bad leg injuries. First the broken leg his rookie year then then boneheaded motorcycle accident.

Even after that he put up a couple good seasons until the Cleveland staph bug got him good.

I don't know what his career would look like in the end considering what a bonehead he was, but the dude could play.
Yeah, if not for injuries KWII and Shockey would've done what Gates and Gronk have.
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You don't remember pre ACL Sehorn then. He was a stud. Those were the days on defense man. John Fox was our DC, we had a stud in Sehorn, we had Armstead, Barrow, Strahan, Keith Hamilton, Shaun Williams, Phillipe Sparks.

That was the last time the Giants had a dominant defense. It's sad that it was such a long time ago.
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If Boselli had been born 10 years later and was drafted in 2005 instead of 1995 he'd be 1st team All Pro every year. I'd still vote yes for the HOF. The only guy I've seen dominate Bruce Smith when Bruuuuce was still in his prime.

Bruce Smith was past his prime when the Jaguars and Boselli came into the league.
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You don't remember pre ACL Sehorn then. He was a stud. Those were the days on defense man. John Fox was our DC, we had a stud in Sehorn, we had Armstead, Barrow, Strahan, Keith Hamilton, Shaun Williams, Phillipe Sparks.

That was the last time the Giants had a dominant defense. It's sad that it was such a long time ago.
I wasn't clear, I was trying to say that even after all of the knee issues Sehorn was still a beast...for the few games he'd be healthy until his next injury.
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Jason Sehorn


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Man, I loved Jason Sehorn. This is still one of my favourite plays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2r8Ft5wWs
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Man, I loved Jason Sehorn. This is still one of my favourite plays: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2r8Ft5wWs
That's probably his career defining play. He's also probably the last white CB we'll ever see again. Ever.
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There was a pretty small window of time where Sehorn was just a stud. What did he have, two elite years before his injury? These days they probably could have fixed him up.
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That's probably his career defining play. He's also probably the last white CB we'll ever see again. Ever.
And that's pretty damn sad, and disgusting.
Where's the Rooney rule there?
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And that's pretty damn sad, and disgusting.
Where's the Rooney rule there?
J-Mike how the heck did you not bite on the Charles Woodson talk in the previous page?
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J-Mike how the heck did you not bite on the Charles Woodson talk in the previous page?
I LOVE Woodson.... am a big fan of the Black Hole, so I'm good with that connection... I remember how happy I was in 06 when he came to GB, reluctantly, but didn't expect he'd be durable for us. Imagine that right, he was injury-prone in Oakland, then got steel-tough for us for 5 years.
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That's probably his career defining play. He's also probably the last white CB we'll ever see again. Ever.
They tried to get him to move to quarterback, but he refused.
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Jason Sehorn was a fairytale told to white kids to make them think they could play cornerback. He didn't actually exist.
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And that, one day, they could plow Angie Harmon.
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Jason Sehorn was a fairytale told to white kids to make them think they could play cornerback. He didn't actually exist.
There will be another one(or two) someday. All you need is a White corner who refuses to play safety in college and shows at a BCS conference school that he can play.
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Funny part is that he didn't even play CB in College.
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Did anyone say Curtis Enis? Because don't. He would have sucked either way.
I blame his full-fledged bars-in-the-window mental illness for his career rather than his knee injuries. Dude is Britney-Spears-with-a-shaved-head insane...but with some fundamental christian crazy thrown in for good measure.
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Brandon Graham.

This guy would have had a better three years than Jason Pierre Paul had he not suffered a torn ACL in his (good) rookie season.

He could still outplay Pierre Paul for the remainder of their careers when all is said and done

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There are a number of Penn State RBs that could be on this list, including Larry Johnson.

And the reason is pretty simple. JoePa would ride these guys into the ground.

LJ was actually lucky. He only took over full-time his senior season.
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There will be another one(or two) someday. All you need is a White corner who refuses to play safety in college and shows at a BCS conference school that he can play.
There have been a few athletic white boys who passed up CB to play QB though. Rich Gannon and wasn't Johnny Football recruited as a CB
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