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Old 05-17-2013, 10:02 AM    (permalink
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I would be all for the NCAA imposing a 2 year rule. If a kid turns 18 and wants to play professionally, fantastic, go play in a league other than the NBA. If he wants to go to college after graduating, also fantastic, but you stay for at least 2 years.

Granted the development is way different, but I love the way drafting/going to college works in baseball.

That said, I do love when people (not Cal specifically) complain about the 1 year rule like it's the NCAA's fault.
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I would be all for the NCAA imposing a 2 year rule. If a kid turns 18 and wants to play professionally, fantastic, go play in a league other than the NBA. If he wants to go to college after graduating, also fantastic, but you stay for at least 2 years.

Granted the development is way different, but I love the way drafting/going to college works in baseball.

That said, I do love when people (not Cal specifically) complain about the 1 year rule like it's the NCAA's fault.
I totally agree. I'd love a baseball style rule. You can enter after high school, but if you go to college you stay minimum 2 years. There are guys every year who are ready to go pro out of high school and they should be able to do so.

Although would more players go pro out of high school because they don't want a 2 year minimum put on them? There are issues that could arise from a minimum and if that's the case then the rule should just be eliminated all together and allow players to go pro whenever they like like in years past.

I hate Cal and Kentucky, but I don't blame him. He's simply taking advantage of the situation he's put in. It doesn't mean he has to agree or disagree with it. He'd be stupid not to do what he's currently doing.
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I totally agree. I'd love a baseball style rule. You can enter after high school, but if you go to college you stay minimum 2 years. There are guys every year who are ready to go pro out of high school and they should be able to do so.

Although would more players go pro out of high school because they don't want a 2 year minimum put on them? There are issues that could arise from a minimum and if that's the case then the rule should just be eliminated all together and allow players to go pro whenever they like like in years past.

I hate Cal and Kentucky, but I don't blame him. He's simply taking advantage of the situation he's put in. It doesn't mean he has to agree or disagree with it. He'd be stupid not to do what he's currently doing.
Comparing basketball to baseball is just absurd. The most important difference is that you don't go straight to the majors when your drafted in baseball. I definitely think that the two year rule would cause more people to go pro out of high school and thus exacerbate the supposed problem even more.
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Comparing basketball to baseball is just absurd. The most important difference is that you don't go straight to the majors when your drafted in baseball. I definitely think that the two year rule would cause more people to go pro out of high school and thus exacerbate the supposed problem even more.
Yes, but what does the NCAA care? It's not their rule/problem in the first place, it's the NBA's problem and the problem of the kids who think they are ready to play pro basketball when they either physically or emotionally are not ready.

You can't really fault the NCAA for any rule change they put in place. They are getting the shaft right now. But in all reality, without cooperation from the NBA, there's no way the NCAA can impose a 2 year rule or anything and have it actually enforced. There's nothing stopping kids from leaving after 1 year.
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Yes, but what does the NCAA care? It's not their rule/problem in the first place, it's the NBA's problem and the problem of the kids who think they are ready to play pro basketball when they either physically or emotionally are not ready.

You can't really fault the NCAA for any rule change they put in place. They are getting the shaft right now. But in all reality, without cooperation from the NBA, there's no way the NCAA can impose a 2 year rule or anything and have it actually enforced. There's nothing stopping kids from leaving after 1 year.
People leaving early isn't hurting the NBA's bottom line, so nothing is going to get change until it does. The NBA has shown they're more than happy to draft players based on potential.
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Oh I agree. My initial point was just that people in general should stop blaming the NCAA for something they can't control. No one is forcing players to go a college, they could easily (actually probably much easier) go to Europe and play, but they choose not to. The NCAA is just the middle man in a process where they have little to no say other than who can and can't play for them.
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Oh I agree. My initial point was just that people in general should stop blaming the NCAA for something they can't control. No one is forcing players to go a college, they could easily (actually probably much easier) go to Europe and play, but they choose not to. The NCAA is just the middle man in a process where they have little to no say other than who can and can't play for them.
You're exactly right. Brandon Jennings and Jeremy Tyler are the only high schoolers I know of to skip college and play overseas.
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I agree, but he said he'll run something that fits what he has at the moment.
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I agree, but he said he'll run something that fits what he has at the moment.
It would be very entertaining to see the 7-2 guy running up and down the court. It will probably take him three years to get the personnel he needs since they're doing a 180 in philosophy.
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It would be very entertaining to see the 7-2 guy running up and down the court. It will probably take him three years to get the personnel he needs since they're doing a 180 in philosophy.
I think it's more the personnel he wants. If he's as bright as everybody made him out to be, I think what he says is true, and that he'll work with his personnel's strength instead of trying to push a square peg through a round hole.
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I think it's more the personnel he wants. If he's as bright as everybody made him out to be, I think what he says is true, and that he'll work with his personnel's strength instead of trying to push a square peg through a round hole.
I think he'll work through it. I doubt they'll even play that fast for the first couple of years. It's been the same process at UNLV.
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He is able to play immediately, too. That is big for Kansas, they lost a lot of leadership from last years team.
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I bet the only two schools that offered him were Illinois State and UCLA. Good point.
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I bet the only two schools that offered him were Illinois State and UCLA. Good point.
He had offers from other schools, but UCLA was the only major one.
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MiKyle McIntosh chose Illinois State over UCLA. I told all of you that Steve Alford can't recruit.
Kid looks solid. Better than any 3 USC's offered (excluding Malik Pope).
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After reading this, I'm wondering how athletic Wiggins actually is. To be fair, he was only 16 during that game, but still.
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:34 AM    (permalink
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After reading this, I'm wondering how athletic Wiggins actually is. To be fair, he was only 16 during that game, but still.
Great read. With that being said though, wtf is he talking about Demarr Derozan not being a freaky athlete? He's an average player, but it has nothing to do with his athleticism.
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