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Old 05-21-2013, 12:46 PM    (permalink
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By the way congratulations Scotty!!!!

We're happy to have you as an alum. My cousin and his gf graduated this weekend also.
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right, gotta make sure we land 'em.

and thanks! it's really cool to be an alum. sad I'm leaving, but part of Rutgers forever!
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Pats signed Mark Harrison and Kevin Haslam this week bringing the Rutgers total to 8. You guys sure you don't want to cross over?
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I saw Harrison but I didn't know about Haslam. Belichick is out of control haha. Haslam's father is a regular poster on the Rutgers Rivals board so I'm surprised he didn't say anything this afternoon.
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god we might just have to be pats fans, wow
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why do bad things keep happening to us? why? WHY
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Rutgers seriously needs to get disciplined for their horrible lack of due diligence during their interview process.

Any organization would have rolling heads for this terrible lack of accountability. Say what you want as a fan of the program, but any real organization would fire anyone involved in this fiasco.

We now have 2 glaring examples of the organization not doing the proper background checks during their hiring process. That's terrible management. As a person who's been involved in the hiring/firing process, I can't believe that an organization like this could be this irresponsible.

It's a joke and heads need to roll, regardless of how you feel about the program. It's poor management. Which isn't surprising honestly, anyone who ever attended Rutgers knows that they have poor management.
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Because this is a witch hunt of the higest order. I don't know who we pissed off but the incessant need to attack the university now for meaningless garbage is over the top. These are not even blips on the radar at any other school but for whatever reason someone wants to make it national news for us. Their are major major problems at a ton of other schools but it's not made a story.

For Hermann this stuff was 20 years ago!!! You know how much dirt can be dug up on anyone for incidents in their past?

Also with the Jordan thing he never lied. They just made a mistake in what they said. It's not even close to being a big deal.
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Doesn't matter. When you get put under a microscope you have to go the extra mile as an organization.

It's like in my field, when a company gets audited by the FDA. Sure, you got tagged for a bunch of stuff that other places get away with. But now that you're under the microscope you have to know better as an organization that you need to be more detailed with how you operate until the dust clears.

It's not an excuse at all for them. You're looking at this from a fan's perspective.

The organization should know better and operate better. It's arrogance on display. Not an excuse at all for them.
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No it's not. They knew about it and they correctly didn't care because it's not a big deal!! We won't be able to hire anyone with this witch hunt. No one is perfect.
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If they didn't care, then that's just a terrible error on their part. They have to understand that they're under a microscope now.

Other people are corrupt too, of course, but why would you hire a AD who was accused of the same crime that your basketball HC just got fired for? Especially when that offense generated national news?! How stupid is that?

If she was guilty of like money laundering or whatever, FINE. That's ok. But this?! You have to know better as an employer. That's so stupid on their part it's not even funny.

Come on man, you can't defend it. It's just terrible management. It's basically Rutgers. We all went to school there, we all know how Rutgers is. Rutgers has never had great management. This circus only illustrates to the rest of the country how terrible their management is.
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I really disagree with you. The SL and ESPN need to shut it for their hypocrisy.
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Furthermore Hermann had a stellar career at Lousiville as associate AD and was never attacked like this until she got to Rutgers. We eat our own here and it's despicable.
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There's no agenda against Rutgers. Your homerism is just blinding you right now. This would happen to any program that was as careless as Rutgers has been over the past 18 months.
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100% there is. Stuff much worse than this happens at other major universities and you don't hear a peep. Pitino was banging a co-ed not a peep. UNC has major major recruiting violations for the umpteenth time and not a peep. I can go on and on.

The SL owned by a Syracuse grad eats its own. ESPN also holding a grudge because TP turned down their Big East deal years ago.

Rutgers is always looked down upon unless you're an alum while at other states everyone has pride in their state university even if you didn't attend.

I am the furthest thing from a Rutgers homer and this agenda is real.
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So as more and more facts come out it seems like the witchhunt/agenda is 100% real.

The supposed letter was not signed by anyone and not even delivered to the AD or Hermann.

The dumb lawsuit which was thrown out out has Hermann not even listed as a defendant. She was only a witness. Way to report the facts SL and ESPN.
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What is SL by the way?

Also I 100% agree about an agenda here with ESPN. They keep running this crap on their ticker and pushing this story, despite no one really giving a **** about Rutgers.

No one really has any interest in this. Very unlike ESPN to push something like this rather than utilizing their airtime on some NFL or Miami Heat story beaten to death already.
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ESPN does this all the time. I disagree with there being some overarching agenda from the media (in general that is, ESPN barely counts at the media to me though). This made news on a variety of outlets. I first read about it on USA Today. That's pretty big news.

The story with Rice was completely legitimate. He was doing things no one should do to student athletes.

Still, it's a story because Rutgers is a state institution. They're not a private school. They should be held accountable. What she was accused of pretty messed up, regardless of time elapsed since it occurred.

It's also a story because of the ineptitude to be able to hire someone without checking them out. They're a public official. They are being put in the spotlight. No, nobody is perfect, but plenty of people keep their nose clean of scandals. If you're Rutgers, you don't think maybe after you had a huge incident with a coach that maybe you should hire someone with out some fairly serious incidents in their past?

I haven't really posted anything because I figure you would just say, "OMG UCONN FAN!!!" but you really are being pretty biased on this, Zak. Not with the whole ESPN thing, because I do agree to an extent, but you're sort of generalizing and straight up skewing other incidents. Petino story was a big deal at the time. It's of course faded since then because of time passing and the fact he's won. I hate him though. He's a douche bag. I would have fired him on the spot but in sports winning often trumps everything else.

And you ARE a Rutgers homer. And that is perfectly okay. Most people are homers. I am for the Giants/Mets/Knicks/etc. It's just how much and to what to degree of homerism. You're not that bad (compared to Scotty!).
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Also I 100% agree about an agenda here with ESPN. They keep running this crap on their ticker and pushing this story, despite no one really giving a **** about Rutgers.

No one really has any interest in this. Very unlike ESPN to push something like this rather than utilizing their airtime on some NFL or Miami Heat story beaten to death already.
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ESPN does this all the time. I disagree with there being some overarching agenda from the media (in general that is, ESPN barely counts at the media to me though). This made news on a variety of outlets. I first read about it on USA Today. That's pretty big news.

The story with Rice was completely legitimate. He was doing things no one should do to student athletes.

Still, it's a story because Rutgers is a state institution. They're not a private school. They should be held accountable. What she was accused of pretty messed up, regardless of time elapsed since it occurred.

It's also a story because of the ineptitude to be able to hire someone without checking them out. They're a public official. They are being put in the spotlight. No, nobody is perfect, but plenty of people keep their nose clean of scandals. If you're Rutgers, you don't think maybe after you had a huge incident with a coach that maybe you should hire someone with out some fairly serious incidents in their past?

I haven't really posted anything because I figure you would just say, "OMG UCONN FAN!!!" but you really are being pretty biased on this, Zak. Not with the whole ESPN thing, because I do agree to an extent, but you're sort of generalizing and straight up skewing other incidents. Petino story was a big deal at the time. It's of course faded since then because of time passing and the fact he's won. I hate him though. He's a douche bag. I would have fired him on the spot but in sports winning often trumps everything else.

And you ARE a Rutgers homer. And that is perfectly okay. Most people are homers. I am for the Giants/Mets/Knicks/etc. It's just how much and to what to degree of homerism. You're not that bad (compared to Scotty!).
I don't care that you're a UConn fan you can still comment. The problem with this story is that the SL keeps pushing things as fact when they're not. They report and 20% has been true. Rutgers needs to grow a set and tell everyone to F off. You let people attack you and they'll walk over your whole life.
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I don't care that you're a UConn fan you can still comment. The problem with this story is that the SL keeps pushing things as fact when they're not. They report and 20% has been true. Rutgers needs to grow a set and tell everyone to F off. You let people attack you and they'll walk over your whole life.
I mean, that's just on Rutgers then. I think there is clearly some validity to the reports or why would Rutgers just bend over and accept this beating without fighting back? It makes zero sense. Clearly she has some issues in her past and Rutgers should have known better than to hire someone like this RIGHT AFTER a huge scandal involving player abuse.

Also, I thought I heard on WFAN Rutgers was having closed door talks without her there (apparently in the past she'd been included). Doesn't that indicate something?
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